If your side lost the election, time to secede from the Union? - page 2

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If your side lost the election, time to secede from the Union? That will never happen, but people on the losing side of the presidential election are venting via a petition, on a White House website, to have their state secede... Read More


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    Have at it, folks. Put your money where your mouth is.
    Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship
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    Crazy talk...just crazy
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    Many of these secessionists are also the same folks that are for "states' rights" which is code for: we don't like how you won't let us discriminate, so we want to have our own rules, and we don't want to pay for your abortions, birth controls, and lazy 47%ers, so we are exercising our state's rights. I wonder, though, when those folks wind up in a jam in a foreign country, do they say, "I'm a citizen of Mississippi" or do they declare that they are citizens of the most powerful country the world has ever known? Seriously, if they want to leave, just remind them that the blue states spend more on the red states than vice versa. Buh-byee!
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    Is it pointless? Perhaps. But until we quit looking at elections as winning and losing our innate sentiment will drive us apart. Elections are decisions; right or wrong depends on who you ask. What drives me up the wall is how each side claims to want to bring us together but continues to use the vocabulary of 3rd world nations segregating us to "class" by income: middle class, upper class. Why do we never hear them refer to people as "low class"? That's what they are saying in essence.

    Anyway, this happens every election. It doesn't matter who wins. It's also our right to do so and to remind the President of that every 4 years is probably not a bad thing.
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    Talk of secession is silly, IMHO.

    So, if Texas secedes, the US moves it's border north and Texas maintains it's border with Mexico. When the next hurricane affects the gulf coast, they can provide their own emergency management response. Texas can create their own trade agreements to provide for their citizens and can form whatever type of government they prefer. They will no longer receive federal aid for schools or health care or law enforcement. The federal government will no longer maintain the national roads in that new "country". The country of Texas would be responsible for their own military to protect their stuff.

    Of course, travel from that new country into the USA would be much different for the citizens of that area than it is now. What currency will they use?

    Seems to me that the cons far out weigh the pros when considering this "option"...
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    It would not bother me if these people seceded from the Union, but wouldn't it be easier just to pack up & move? Petitions are cumbersome.
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    It's funny that the "red states" that make the most noise about an overbearing federal government are also the same states that receive the most federal subsidies.....
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    I say designate Texas as the new established country for anyone who does not wish to be a part of America any longer. People who want to move out of Texas and remain Americans will receive refugee assistance for relocation and repatriation. Anyone who is clamoring for cesession anywhere else in the US can sell their property to the US government to finance their immigration. After some time, when the dust has settled, our country can finally join the rest of the first world nations in the 21st century. And Texans can do whatever they want. Until we invade them for human rights violations.
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    Quote from tewdles
    Talk of secession is silly, IMHO.

    So, if Texas secedes, the US moves it's border north and Texas maintains it's border with Mexico. When the next hurricane affects the gulf coast, they can provide their own emergency management response. Texas can create their own trade agreements to provide for their citizens and can form whatever type of government they prefer. They will no longer receive federal aid for schools or health care or law enforcement. The federal government will no longer maintain the national roads in that new "country". The country of Texas would be responsible for their own military to protect their stuff.

    Of course, travel from that new country into the USA would be much different for the citizens of that area than it is now. What currency will they use?

    Seems to me that the cons far out weigh the pros when considering this "option"...
    Let's not forget Texas has the largest military presence of any state, plus NASA. They also have the vast majority of oil refineries. The last report I read showed Texas was adding more jobs than any other state. The red states also make up the majority of the US agriculture. If Texas were allowed to seal off their southern border and deport the illegals they would have a good chance of being self sustained if they seceded, which won't happen.
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    Quote from CloudySue
    I say designate Texas as the new established country for anyone who does not wish to be a part of America any longer. People who want to move out of Texas and remain Americans will receive refugee assistance for relocation and repatriation. Anyone who is clamoring for cesession anywhere else in the US can sell their property to the US government to finance their immigration. After some time, when the dust has settled, our country can finally join the rest of the first world nations in the 21st century. And Texans can do whatever they want. Until we invade them for human rights violations.
    Join the rest of the first world nations? Do you mean China, Spain, Greece? Who exactly do you want the US to catch up to?


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