How Syrian Refugees Were Processed Before Trump

  1. There is a LOT oF BS propaganda out there right now. For those interested in the subject I suggest this:

    A look at how Syrian refugees were vetted before Trump - CBS News
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  2. 22 Comments

  3. by   Markperry
    My question is since we in the US hold religion sacred and you can't discriminate.

    Polygamy is legal in Syria and most of Middle East and Asia. Men are allowed to have up to 4 wives in Syria. Will the US respect and honor this tradition?
  4. by   Markperry
    Why do all these able bodied men who are fighting age, why in the heck do they want to leave Syria or the Middle East. Stay home and fight for your country.
  5. by   elkpark
    Quote from Markperry
    Why do all these able bodied men who are fighting age, why in the heck do they want to leave Syria or the Middle East.
    Perhaps the new Amnesty International report will enlighten you.

    Government forces and non-state armed groups committed war crimes, other violations of international humanitarian law and gross human rights abuses with impunity in the internal armed conflict. Government forces carried out indiscriminate attacks and attacks that directly targeted civilians, including bombardment of civilian residential areas and medical facilities with artillery, mortars, barrel bombs and, reportedly, chemical agents, unlawfully killing civilians. Government forces also enforced lengthy sieges, trapping civilians and depriving them of food, medical care and other necessities. Security forces arbitrarily arrested and continued to detain thousands, including peaceful activists, human rights defenders, media and humanitarian workers, and children. Some were subjected to enforced disappearance and others to prolonged detention or unfair trials. Security forces systematically tortured and otherwise ill-treated detainees with impunity; thousands of detainees died as a result of torture and other ill-treatment between 2011 and 2015.

    Syria | Amnesty International

    Gee, why would anyone want to leave?
  6. by   Markperry
    Quote from elkpark
    Perhaps the new Amnesty International report will enlighten you.

    Government forces and non-state armed groups committed war crimes, other violations of international humanitarian law and gross human rights abuses with impunity in the internal armed conflict. Government forces carried out indiscriminate attacks and attacks that directly targeted civilians, including bombardment of civilian residential areas and medical facilities with artillery, mortars, barrel bombs and, reportedly, chemical agents, unlawfully killing civilians. Government forces also enforced lengthy sieges, trapping civilians and depriving them of food, medical care and other necessities. Security forces arbitrarily arrested and continued to detain thousands, including peaceful activists, human rights defenders, media and humanitarian workers, and children. Some were subjected to enforced disappearance and others to prolonged detention or unfair trials. Security forces systematically tortured and otherwise ill-treated detainees with impunity; thousands of detainees died as a result of torture and other ill-treatment between 2011 and 2015.

    Syria | Amnesty International

    Gee, why would anyone want to leave?
    Cowards. let the woman and children leave. But if you are male over age 15 then you need to stay and fight.
  7. by   Extra Pickles
    Quote from Markperry
    Cowards. let the woman and children leave. But if you are male over age 15 then you need to stay and fight.
    When you say these words out loud do they sound good to you?
  8. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from Extra Pickles
    When you say these words out loud do they sound good to you?
    I wonder if he's served in the military? Maybe he had a deferment like his hero tRump.
  9. by   PMFB-RN
    Quote from Markperry
    My question is since we in the US hold religion sacred and you can't discriminate.

    Polygamy is legal in Syria and most of Middle East and Asia. Men are allowed to have up to 4 wives in Syria. Will the US respect and honor this tradition?

    1) Silly question since this is NOT by any means the first time western countries have faced this issue and it been LONG decided.
    2)Poligamy is nearly as rare in Syria as it is in the USA.
    3) As we have seen from recent events, clearly we CAN discriminate.
    4) Do you have any on-topic comments?
  10. by   PMFB-RN
    Quote from Markperry
    Cowards. let the woman and children leave. But if you are male over age 15 then you need to stay and fight.
    You do understand that the only reason there even are Syrian refugees is as a direct (and predicted) result of the USA'S choice to invade Iraq and destabilize the region.
  11. by   PMFB-RN
    Quote from Markperry
    Why do all these able bodied men who are fighting age, why in the heck do they want to leave Syria or the Middle East. Stay home and fight for your country.
    What able bodied men?
    "Gina Kassem: Mostly we focus on victims of torture, survivors of violence, women-headed households, a lot of severe medical cases."
  12. by   azhiker96
    I think there is no need to pause immigration to check or adjust the vetting process. Reviewing and improving the process should be ongoing. A better use of resources would be investigating how people become radicalized in the US, how we can prevent or detect it.

    That said, I also don't think a three or four month travel restriction will destroy high tech companies or eliminate pediatric care. There are lots of hair on fire reports with hand wringing about what might happen.
  13. by   azhiker96
    Quote from PMFB-RN
    You do understand that the only reason there even are Syrian refugees is as a direct (and predicted) result of the USA'S choice to invade Iraq and destabilize the region.
    Yes, and also US support of Arab Spring uprisings and the Syrian militias. We just can't seem to keep our thumb out of that pie.
  14. by   herring_RN
    DHS report disputes threat from banned nations
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Analysts at the Homeland Security Department's intelligence arm found insufficient evidence that citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries included in President Donald Trump's travel ban pose a terror threat to the United States...

    ... The three-page report challenges Trump's core claims. It said that of 82 people the government determined were inspired by a foreign terrorist group to carry out or try to carry out an attack in the United States, just over half were U.S. citizens born in the United States. The others were from 26 countries, led by Pakistan, Somalia, Bangladesh, Cuba, Ethiopia, Iraq and Uzbekistan. Of these, only Somalia and Iraq were among the seven nations included in the ban.Of the other five nations, one person each from Iran, Sudan and Yemen was also involved in those terrorism cases, but none from Syria. It did not say if any were Libyan.
    The report also found that terrorist organizations in Iran, Libya, Somalia and Sudan are regionally focused, while groups in Iraq, Syria and Yemen do pose a threat to the U.S....

    ... The report was prepared as part of an internal review Trump requested after his executive order was blocked by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. It was drafted by staff of the Homeland Security Department's Intelligence and Analysis branch at the direction of its acting leader, David Glawe.
    White House spokesman Michael Short said this was not the full report that Trump had requested. He said he believes "the intel community is combining resources to put together a comprehensive report using all available sources, not just open sources, and which is driven by data, not politics."
    The intelligence document was circulated beyond Homeland Security....
    AP Exclusive: DHS report disputes threat from banned nations

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