House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To The Severely Mentally Ill - page 4

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  1. by   toomuchbaloney
    Another young mother was just shot to death by her estranged male lover who was known to police because of his domestic violence activities.

    His right to own a gun was more important than her life or the needs of her small children in our society. We won't protect her but we will protect that gun ownership. .
  2. by   Lil Nel
    Now Kentucky lawmakers have tried to make their original bill a bit more appealing to the masses by having a Senate version with an age limit of 21, instead of 18. The rest of the bill is worded exactly the same: it does away with existing state law requiring a permit, criminal background check AND firearms training before carrying a concealed, loaded gun in public. Amazing!

    Yes, guns are legal to own. I understand that. But when guns are made more easily available to ANYBODY, including the mental ill, that is just stupid.

    Remember, the mentally ill don't just use guns to hurt and maim others. They also use guns on themselves via suicide.
  3. by   toomuchbaloney
    Didn't the NRA spokesman just tell the world that Soros or someone is paying protesters $1500 per week to make conservative legislators lives difficult?

    Seriously.
    He just said something to that effect in a CPAC meeting. No data or facts to back that up. He just pulled that straight out of some small orifice and offered it up in his official capacity as chief propagandist for weapons manufacturers and not one peep from those people who are now so consumed with the presidential notion of fake news.

    It is stunning to observe the mechanics of leading a democratic population down a pathway of fascism and authoritarianism.
  4. by   elkpark
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    Didn't the NRA spokesman just tell the world that Soros or someone is paying protesters $1500 per week to make conservative legislators lives difficult?

    Seriously.
    He just said something to that effect in a CPAC meeting. No data or facts to back that up. He just pulled that straight out of some small orifice and offered it up in his official capacity as chief propagandist for weapons manufacturers and not one peep from those people who are now so consumed with the presidential notion of fake news.

    It is stunning to observe the mechanics of leading a democratic population down a pathway of fascism and authoritarianism.
    Yeah, I heard that, too, and my first thought was -- where the heck do I sign up??? I'd be delighted to get paid to do what I'm already doing for free.
  5. by   VivaLasViejas
    Quote from Lil Nel

    Remember, the mentally ill don't just use guns to hurt and maim others. They also use guns on themselves via suicide.
    This is an unfair stereotype. Mentally ill people are far more likely to be the victims of violence than perpetrators of it, yet the myth persists that we are dangerous and not to be trusted with firearms. That's not to say that SOME people with mental illness shouldn't own guns, just as there are people who have already committed a criminal act (violent or not), who shouldn't have access to them. But blanket judgments against people who suffer from bipolar or major depression and may hurt themselves are based on fear rather than any real concern for them.

    So many people get in an uproar about immigration rights, where are their voices when one group of marginalized citizens are in danger of losing THEIR rights on the basis of a brain disorder?
  6. by   margin261
    Quote from PMFB-RN
    I have no memory of that at all.
    I was thinking it had something to do with trigger guards, trying to prevent accidental shootings by kids, or something along those lines.

    I tried to look it up but couldn't find anything that came close to what my brain was recalling.

    I do think way to many kids are killed every year in accidental shootings. But I think that is more careless handling on the part of the adult than anything else.

    I think some of the laws could be a little stricter, to make it a little more difficult for the Dylan Roofs to arm themselves. On the other hand, those bent on destruction will always find a way & don't abide by the laws anyway.

    And I'll be sure to keep my guns out of boats!! Apparently not a goid mix!
  7. by   elkpark
    Quote from margin261
    I do think way to many kids are killed every year in accidental shootings. But I think that is more careless handling on the part of the adult than anything else.
    "Way to(o) many"? What would you consider an acceptable number of children to lose each year in accidental shootings?
  8. by   herring_RN
    Utah company making guns safer with fingerprint trigger lock:
    Utah company making guns safer with fingerprint trigger lock | fox13now.com

    Intelligun® is a fingerprint locking system which completely locks your gun, unlocking it immediately only for you and for your authorized users
    Intelligun

    IDENTILOCK™ - The Trigger Gun Lock Home
  9. by   PMFB-RN
    Quote from herring_RN
    Utah company making guns safer with fingerprint trigger lock:
    Utah company making guns safer with fingerprint trigger lock | fox13now.com

    Intelligun® is a fingerprint locking system which completely locks your gun, unlocking it immediately only for you and for your authorized users
    Intelligun

    IDENTILOCK™ - The Trigger Gun Lock Home
    I haven't seen these. But I can tell you that previous finger print locks were not reliable and they left a bad taste in our mouths. For something like this to to be accepted it must be 100% reliable and very inexpensive.
  10. by   toomuchbaloney
    Quote from PMFB-RN
    I haven't seen these. But I can tell you that previous finger print locks were not reliable and they left a bad taste in our mouths. For something like this to to be accepted it must be 100% reliable and very inexpensive.
    That's what we want in health care reform too.
  11. by   margin261
    Quote from elkpark
    "Way to(o) many"? What would you consider an acceptable number of children to lose each year in accidental shootings?
    Zero. My answer is is zero. My fault for the way I phrased that. Sorry.
    Part of my brain was still searching its databanks for what I had mentioned.
  12. by   PMFB-RN
    Quote from margin261
    Zero. My answer is is zero. My fault for the way I phrased that. Sorry.
    Part of my brain was still searching its databanks for what I had mentioned.

    I don't expect perfection and don't believe it's achievable.

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