Give sugar bailout and complain about obesity

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    The USA has an obesity problem. We know there is a relationship between sugar, obesity, and Diabetes. There is a relationship between Diabetes and increased health costs.

    Why does our government subsidize something that not only kills and maims, but also increases health care costs greatly.

    We used to do it for tobacco. If I wore a tin foil hat I might think the government wants to get rid of the elderly. Certainly Pual Ryan's voucher plan would accomplish that also.

    Actually I am tired of having tax dollars support industries that kill Americans, be they defense contractors or sugar shacks. I am concerned that our country supports those industries that injure and kill. When we say our country we are actually saying we tax payers pay to get and keep people ill.
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    What about subsidiizng and paying for these killers. Are you okay with that?

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    Sugar Bailout Is Govt. Policy at Its Worst: Hypocritical and Stupid | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance

    The USA has an obesity problem. We know there is a relationship between sugar, obesity, and Diabetes. There is a relationship between Diabetes and increased health costs.

    Why does our government subsidize something that not only kills and maims, but also increases health care costs greatly.

    We used to do it for tobacco. If I wore a tin foil hat I might think the government wants to get rid of the elderly. Certainly Pual Ryan's voucher plan would accomplish that also.

    Actually I am tired of having tax dollars support industries that kill Americans, be they defense contractors or sugar shacks. I am concerned that our country supports those industries that injure and kill. When we say our country we are actually saying we tax payers pay to get and keep people ill.
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    It's not sugarthat is causing the obesity problem, nor the subsequent health issues, it'shigh fructose corn syrup (HFCS) which was made as a cheaper and moreconcentrated sweetener to replace sugar. If you read labels you will noticevery few products even contain sugar, they contain HFCS, or for those rareproducts that do have sugar, many also add HFCS so they can use less sugar.

    HFCS is in EVERYTHING! I get so frustrated when trying to purchase healthy,affordable foods at the market, because meat is so expensive. I tried lookingat alternatives but even breakfast and dinner sausages contain HFCS. I've alsofound it in pre-packaged burger patties.

    If you start reading labels you will be disgusted and frustrated by whatmanufacturers can get away with. On a side note I was going to buy some coughmedicine for my toddler, but the only thing for his age was an all-naturalproduct that was almost $9...and the ingredients were "purified water,dark honey and ascorbic acid (aka Vit C)"....I can make that at home! Also, it is nearly impossible to find a product in the store that does notcontain vegetable oil (which contains a variety of corn, soy and/or canola oil)and/or HFCS.

    Yet the obesity epidemic is blamed on sugar and fats....sugar is rarely found in the products that the average obese person consumes and howoften are they eating real fats that aren't those which are contained in theprocessed products most of them are eating (which is vegetable oil)? How oftenare they eating real beef such as a big ol' steak?

    Just on a side not, for those who read labels (and are constantly aggravated bywhat they can get away with printing) have you noticed the boxes that read"No High Fructose Corn Syrup" contain CORN SYRUP!? Seriously ridiculous.
    Last edit by Pets to People on Mar 17, '13
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    So this conversation begs the question, in civil society is it appropriate for government to regulate the activities of a free market enterprise with the intent of protecting the population? Or is that governmental overreach?

    I tend to agree that the government should not have any stance that would suggest that it is okay for businesses to create and market products that cause harm. Some businesses DO require governmental oversight to insure ethical and safe behavior.

    If you are going to go after these products I would think you would have to do it globally in the community. It didn't sound like that was how it happened in NYC.
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    its not like the sugar industry is not going to get their bailout money. I can see it now, commercials proclaiming how essential sugar is to the american way of life. Its just as american as apple pie with ice cream on top. Our government officials will just cow-tow to their demands/requests, especially if they play the "we employ people" card.
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    Quote from tewdles
    So this conversation begs the question, in civil society is it appropriate for government to regulate the activities of a free market enterprise with the intent of protecting the population? Or is that governmental overreach?

    I tend to agree that the government should not have any stance that would suggest that it is okay for businesses to create and market products that cause harm. Some businesses DO require governmental oversight to insure ethical and safe behavior.

    If you are going to go after these products I would think you would have to do it globally in the community. It didn't sound like that was how it happened in NYC.
    Government needs to step in when big business starts to dictate terms on how our society should be ran.
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    The government needs to stop subsidizing these mega corporations that own more and more companies and are harder to track. Why does sugar need to be subsidized? Why does corn? Why does Monsanto have a vice like grip on all the seeds produced in the US?

    It goes back to Congress and who they represent. I suspect they do not care about high fructose corn syrup anymore than they care about the other plastic type foods produced for mass market. Margarine is another example of a chemical in search of a use, and they found it. Butter is much better for you. Olive oil even better.

    Almost all honey comes from China. So people who think that by buying honey they are providing quality food, think again. The number of dead pigs found in the drinking water in China is rising. How do you think they wash their machinery if not by use of this same contaminated water.

    There are nature sources of sugars in the US. Maple syrup can be from Canada, which has fewer regulations and probably has formaldehyde. Even honey that is labeled as US probably is not.

    Buy local. Know the people you buy from. And let Congress know that subsidizing big business is killing Americans.
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    I'd be happy to have the government butt out of controlling what we eat however that should start with the farm subsidies. Subsidies have provided an incentive for huge corporations to take over agriculture in this country. Most products in the grocery store are produced by a handful of companies that market the same items under different names.

    It is educational to watch the documentary "King Korn". The idea behind the corn subsidy was to provide cheap food for consumers and by that measure the program has been very successful. The unintended consequence seems to include our obesity epidemic and associated health problems.
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    Who was it that approved the mergers in the first place? The government. The more government is involved the more money will flow from the treasury to self interests of businesses and individuals with access.
    Quote from aknottedyarn
    The government needs to stop subsidizing these mega corporations that own more and more companies and are harder to track. Why does sugar need to be subsidized?
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    Many of the changes and de-reg. go back to the Reagan administration. In fact, if you look at many of the talking points of all politically active parties about things that have gotten out of control, you will see Reagan's hand. The most obvious is the ridiculous war on drugs. Our prisons are over crowded to the point of violence due to incarceration of drug related arrests. There were no "Drug cartels" before he decided that instead of arresting thieves we should arrest anyone with a nickel bag of pot, or a joint, or any other drug deemed unacceptable. Now the banks have gotten into the business of money laundering for the cartels, and some have even been caught doing it. None of the banks or their employees went to jail. If corporations are people there needed to be an appropriate response. A fine is not the same as taking away a person's voting rights because you make drug possession a felony.

    The NRA wants a focus to be on mental health/illness rather than other issues in gun control. Who really changed the climate in mental illness and dumped the in greatest need on the street? Reagan. Who pushed for gun control as a governor back in the day? Reagan.

    Many of the subsidies go way back before him. De-regulation of phone and electric started a cascade.
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