General Election 2012 Thread

  1. It's horribly early, but I'm going there anyway.
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  3. by   Tweety
    Interesting that such an elderly man is popular with young people. I do like that he leaves social issues alone.

    From Dr. No to tea party godfather: Ron Paul says he’s running for president a third time - The Washington Post
  4. by   Tweety
    Front runner Mitt Romney has a thorn in his side that the WJS gave a blistering attack about that may dog him this election: Massachusettes health care.

    FLASHBACK: Romney, WSJ talk health care, circa 2006 - Political Intelligence - A national political and campaign blog from The Boston Globe -

    Mitt Romney Defends State Health Plan He Championed -
    Last edit by Tweety on May 13, '11
  5. by   Tweety
  6. by   VivaLasViejas
    Quote from Tweety
    It's horribly early, but I'm going there anyway.
    Aw, do we HAVE to??
  7. by   ElvishDNP
    You know how I feel about Ron Paul. I'll be voting for him in the primaries.

    If anyone other than him actually wins the Republican nomination, I won't vote for them, but if Dr. Paul wins, he's probably got my vote for prez. He leaves social issues alone, like you said, and he out-lefts Obama on war and military spending. I am probably the only person I agree with 100% on everything, but I appreciate that Dr. Paul has consistent views, unlike his colleagues.

    PS - Tweety: he's not 'elderly'. He's 'mature.'
  8. by   ElvishDNP
    One more thing: What the Tea Party has become is NOT the same as what it originally started out as when Ron Paulians started it. Just sayin', since I saw the article titled 'Tea Party Godfather'...
  9. by   Tweety
    I don't think the article invented that "Godfather of the Tea Party", it's been around, because he did hold one of the first modern "tea parties", and I do imagine he'd want to distance himself from them...if he has any sense at all.

    While he might not be "elderly" at 75 he's old. Which doesn't mean a thing to me, except that it's interesting that so many young people (like you) are behind him. I think because there are conservative young people that are anti-government interference in their lives, and don't like the social stance of some republicans (like their anti-gay marriage stance since they are likely to know GBLT people)
  10. by   Tweety
    Quote from VivaLasViejas
    Aw, do we HAVE to??
    Don't make me find posts where you yourself have discussed the 2012 election.
  11. by   ElvishDNP
    I know that article didn't invent the title - it's been around on libertarian sites for quite a while. I was just clarifying, so there's no confusion. And Dr. Paul has distanced himself multiple times from what the TP has morphed into; whether or not he has put into so many words that he's not one of them, he has over and over criticized their platform.

    As for elderly vs. say 'tomato', I say 'tomahto'. He keeps in excellent shape and I hope I am half that healthy when I'm 75.
  12. by   Tweety
    Being closer to 75 than you are Elvish, I'm careful how I choose my words. Just like "age ain't nothing but a number" "old" ain't nothing but a word. "Elderly" wasn't a good choice of words because the image associated is frailty and that's not fair to him. But you certainly can't say he's middle aged. He's old and you're young, but like I said, that doesn't mean anything.
  13. by   ElvishDNP
    My dear stepfather is 95, and I'm always telling him he's not old yet. Won't be old 'til he gets to 100. (His mom died at 106, and he's in great shape now, so it's a distinct possibility!) So both you and Dr. Paul fall into the 'not old yet' category.

    Off-topic alert: Dad called me flipping out about five years ago because the doctor diagnosed him with 'borderline diabetes'. Translation: his fasting blood sugar was *slightly* elevated (we're talking 115 or so). I told him to quit worrying, that he only reason he got diagnosed with it was that he'd lived long enough. Considering that he eats a very healthy diet anyway, I told him to eat whatever the hell he wanted at 90 years young (which is basically what the doc told him as well).
  14. by   Tweety
    To me, Mr. Gingrich is really out of touch and is tooting 1990 politics and rhetoric: Democrats are all about food stamps and welfare, and republicans need to give business breaks.

    Republican Newt Gingrich told a Georgia audience on Friday evening that the 2012 presidential election is the most consequential since the 1860 race that elected Abraham Lincoln to the White House and was soon followed by the Civil War.

    Addressing the Georgia Republican Party's convention, Gingrich said the nation is at a crossroads and that the re-election of Democratic President Barack Obama would lead to four more years of "radical left-wing values" that would drive the nation to ruin.

    Gingrich also blasted Obama as "the most successful food stamp president in modern American history."
    Again with the tax cuts to coorporations (and increasing the deficit) that are holding billions in cash waiting to invest, with CEO's making record salaries and many companies making good profits......

    He outlined a jobs plan that would eliminate the estate and capital gains taxes and lower the corporate tax rate, which he said would infuse the nation's sputtering economy with new investment.
    Also interesting.....
    Some 45 percent of Republicans now say they're dissatisfied with the GOP candidates who have declared or are thought to be serious about running, up from 33 percent two months ago, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll. Just 41 percent are satisfied with the likely Republican field, down from 52 percent.

    ..Plenty are holding out for somebody else.
    Gingrich: 2012 election biggest since 1860 - Politics - Decision 2012 -