Devos. Welp, Public Education WAS a nice idea.

  1. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/u...rmed.html?_r=0
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  2. 26 Comments

  3. by   kidzcare
    Sad day for schools/children/people who think that we should be an educated nation.
  4. by   Farawyn
    I will write to Collins and Murkowski, to thank them for trying to do the right thing, despite party lines.
  5. by   grammy1
    Ugh.....
  6. by   Flare
    ugh - did anyone actually think that the VP wouldn't vote in that ninny. I have a plant in my office that would be more qualified than her!
  7. by   llg
    It's going to be an interesting congressional election season in 2018 ... if we survive that long.
  8. by   elkpark
    You gotta love the BBC; they just lay things right out there for you. On my way home this evening (with NPR on the radio, of course), the BBC newsbreak was reporting this thusly (and you have to imagine the calm, plummy tones of the female BBC news-reader):

    "Ms. DeVos was confirmed by the slimmest possible margin; the chamber was evenly divided, and Vice President Mike (for some reason, she pronounced it "Mick") Pence cast the deciding vote. Ms. DeVos is a wealthy Republican donor with no experience in education."

    End of story.

    A sad day for education in the US.
  9. by   BeckyESRN
    The teachers here have been pretty vocal about their disdain for DeVos and her complete and utter lack of qualifications for the Sec. of Ed. position; we're not a talk politics in the break room kind of school, but her nomination lead to quite a few discussions. Yesterday I heard one of the teachers say "Well, there goes special education funding, but we'll all have guns, you know, in case of bears".
  10. by   OyWithThePoodles
    This just goes to show that what is best for our country doesn't always matter, just what party you are affiliated with. Absolutely shameful. I mean can you imagine the uproar if democrats had nominated AND VOTED IN someone so incredibly unqualified and clueless!?! And I say that as a republican! So much hypocrisy it makes me sick...and scared for our children's futures.

    *steps off dusty political soapbox that is rarely used and counts to 10*
  11. by   DeeAngel
    I'm far more qualified to do this than Betsy DeVoss is simple because I attended public schools.
  12. by   OldDude
    I have no idea what your experience is so my opinion only applies to what I've seen way down here in the flatlands of South Texas. And what I've seen over and over and over, is the same things done in different packages...regardless of the administrators/staff, with very few exceptions, it's like cows walking the same cow paths day after day after day with regular lip service of how great everyone is doing and what a grand education they are providing the future of America. School policy is not tangibly different now than it was 15 years ago. I've had 2 kids so far graduate from my school district...academically successful...lost in the real and functional world of society otherwise...in spite of me hammering away at reality to them over the years. I have 3 more to graduate. I expect the same. This history of public education has spanned both political sides over the years; nothing has changed - same failure rates yet everyone is a winner, everyone gets a ribbon, same ridiculous push that every student is college material, government takeover of student aid and loans designed as a back door for additional college funding, Groundhog Day in perpetuity. Public Education has monopolized our tax dollars year after year after year with no change; insanity, eh? I have no idea who the new education secretary is. I pray SOME positive changes can be made. I'll take anything that will compel a move away from the education mire we've been stuck in for the past 20 years. Like I said, this is the view from my back porch; have no idea what the complexion of your school district is but I think we're all on the same page about wanting quality education for all kidlets. I do hope public education decisions will be given back to each state.

    I know you guys will still love me even though you think I'm disagreeing with you. Cuz you already know I'm a died-in-the-wool, redneck, beer drinkin, gun toting, pickup driving, meat eating, woman loving, southern conservative.
  13. by   GdBSN
    I know you guys will still love me even though you think I'm disagreeing with you. Cuz you already know I'm a died-in-the-wool, redneck, beer drinkin, gun toting, pickup driving, meat eating, woman loving, southern conservative.[/QUOTE]

    Don't forget "ride your horse to work, oil well in your backyard Texan"
  14. by   /username
    Quote from OldDude
    I have no idea what your experience is so my opinion only applies to what I've seen way down here in the flatlands of South Texas. And what I've seen over and over and over, is the same things done in different packages...regardless of the administrators/staff, with very few exceptions, it's like cows walking the same cow paths day after day after day with regular lip service of how great everyone is doing and what a grand education they are providing the future of America. School policy is not tangibly different now than it was 15 years ago. I've had 2 kids so far graduate from my school district...academically successful...lost in the real and functional world of society otherwise...in spite of me hammering away at reality to them over the years. I have 3 more to graduate. I expect the same. This history of public education has spanned both political sides over the years; nothing has changed - same failure rates yet everyone is a winner, everyone gets a ribbon, same ridiculous push that every student is college material, government takeover of student aid and loans designed as a back door for additional college funding, Groundhog Day in perpetuity. Public Education has monopolized our tax dollars year after year after year with no change; insanity, eh? I have no idea who the new education secretary is. I pray SOME positive changes can be made. I'll take anything that will compel a move away from the education mire we've been stuck in for the past 20 years. Like I said, this is the view from my back porch; have no idea what the complexion of your school district is but I think we're all on the same page about wanting quality education for all kidlets. I do hope public education decisions will be given back to each state.

    I know you guys will still love me even though you think I'm disagreeing with you. Cuz you already know I'm a died-in-the-wool, redneck, beer drinkin, gun toting, pickup driving, meat eating, woman loving, southern conservative.

    On a larger scale, the government, especially the president doesn't change a ton between administrations. Sure, there are obvious differences, but what is told is largely the same "The other party's policies have been a blight on the nation, and have prevented progress and growth. We have great ideas on how to fix it that will work much better!"

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