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    Quote from tntrn
    Didn't president bush have a nearly unanimous yes vote from the senate for the war? It is hardly his war. He had much support for it. I find the attitude shown regarding that lacking in integrity.

    Iraq War Senate Vote

    YEAs -- 77
    NAYs -- 23

    Iraq War House Vote
    YEAs -- 296
    NAYs -- 133
    Last edit by mediajunkie650 on Jan 11, '13
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    Make no mistake, the Iraq war was entirely authored by the Bush WH...not the congress.
    Many of us believed then and more believe now, that we should never have engaged in that arrogant invasion that was certain to further destabilize the region.
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    I seem to recall all liberals whining and complaining about Bill Clinton having to deal with Iraq because the first President Bush didn't complete the job of ousting Hussein. I also recall liberals saying that Afghanistan was the good war. I also saw liberals requesting a re-vote on the Iraq war and totally for it. You won't get away with your revisionist history on here and in the end you liberals will be called out on your hypocrisy. I find it amazing that liberals protested the wars when Bush was in Office but are not out there with Obama in office. No more media daily death tallies. Cindy Sheehan has been thrown under the bus. No more code pink.


    Quote from Herring_RN
    I mean the wars both parties voted for. The Iraq war millions of us protested before and after "shock and awe" began the killing.

    Do you think we should have gon to war in Afghanistan?
    Do you think the USA should have started the Iraq war in 2003?

    If no answer I'm done posting on this thread regarding those wars.
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    Were you out there protesting Obama when he attacked Lybia? Do you complain about Obama when he "invades" pakistan with drones and navy seals to get Osama Bin Laden?
    Quote from tewdles
    Make no mistake, the Iraq war was entirely authored by the Bush WH...not the congress.
    Many of us believed then and more believe now, that we should never have engaged in that arrogant invasion that was certain to further destabilize the region.
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    looks pretty unanimous to me. Is that the first vote or the re-vote that libearls demanded to be on-board with the war?

    Quote from mediajunkie650

    Iraq War Senate Vote

    YEAs -- 77
    NAYs -- 23

    Iraq War House Vote
    YEAs -- 296
    NAYs -- 133
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    According to self righteous liberals only Republicans care about the rich and get rich off the backs of the poor.

    Quote from tewdles
    I didn't realize that republican legislators didn't get rich while in office just like democrats...

    I pretty much thought that their self allowed insider trading was available to all legislators...not just those of one party. Or perhaps the comments about dems getting rich in office was really just an opinion that was neglecting to consider the wealth increases of republicans because the author leans republican?
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    Not everyone in Congress passed those bills or ran up that debt. The trouble is me and the other 53% pay for the debt not the 47% of free loading democrats that game the system. Should Warren Buffet the darling of the left pay the 1 billion he owes in back taxes? Shouldn't GE's Jeffrey Immelt a big Obama friend and supporter be paying their fair share.
    Buffett's Billions Can't Buy Him Exemption From His Tax-Averse Past - Forbes

    Quote from herring_RN
    Congress past the bills that caused the debt.
    Should they not agree to pay?

    Cutting spending and/or increasing revenue can decrease the debt in the future but if the ceiling is not raised the interest will go up.
    We are a wealthy country. We should pay what we owe.
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    This thread and the finger pointing is one reason the Congress has gotten away with their behaviors that do not deal with issues until they become emergencies.

    The Congress and the rest of us were lied to by Bush and his minions about WMD, etc. He wanted to attack somebody after 9-11. This was a handy place to create a "reason" to go in. While you are worried about revisionist history please recall that Colin Powell was placed in front of the UN spouting lies that he knew at the time had been shown not to be true by reasonable intell.

    So we can spin our wheels and the GOP can contiue to avoid any reasonable discussion about how to avoid a shutdown that will cost more millions that will have to be paid. It will do little to change the fact that Congress is not doing what they are being paid, very well, to do.

    I would like to see suggestions that do not include Social Security, as this is not an entitlement, or Medicare, also not an entitlement. Personally I have paid much more into them than I will ever see. I continue to pay for Medicare. I would like to see the money borrowed from Social Security repaid rather than disembowel the program to feed their friends investment companies. We know how safe they are. Can we all say AIG together? How about BofA, Citi, Chase, Swiss Bank accounts, or even The Cayman Islands?

    If you make the lobbys that fund the lawmakers accountable, stop the subsidizing of industries that are bathing in million dollar profits while paying no tax, and cut out some of the obvious loopholes like the "borrowing" we found out about Romney doing to hide millions as he "lent"it to a charity we would be able to have a discussion. As long as the GOP refuses to discuss these things and cries cut, there can be no positve ending to this.
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    I am beginning to think that 22gwhiteacre may be a TROLL...
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