Call for new Direction in Democratic Party

  1. Bernie Sanders rallies supporters with call for new direction in Democratic party
    On a gorgeous fall day, surrounded by changing trees, a group of Bernie Sanders’ most ardent supporters held a political bonfire for the doomed Trans-Pacific Partnership outside the US Capitol building.
    “RIP TPP!” the group chanted at the rally, organized by National Nurses United...
    Bernie Sanders rallies supporters with call for new direction in Democratic party | US news | The Guardian
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  2. 15 Comments

  3. by   Tweety
    He's promoting a book he wrote. Interesting.
  4. by   rnmaybe
    Bernies not a Democrat so why doesn't he promote a third party of some sort. He would get a more press coverage if he were to break away and start some sort of reform party.
  5. by   Markperry
    The Democratic party signed there own death sentence by letting Nancy Pelosi lead them for another two years. They are in free fall mode. The Democrats nominated a flawed candidate and the general public spoke. They were exposed as a fraud, with the DNC basically rigging the primary so Hillary would win. And with the super delegates one would be a fool to even vote for a democrat. This is non American.

    If Trump has a successful 4 year, then it will be a long time before the democrats come around again. It appears as if Obama will go down in history as creating one of the strongest Republican run in history.

    Good Job Dumbo
  6. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from Markperry
    The Democratic party signed there own death sentence by letting Nancy Pelosi lead them for another two years. They are in free fall mode. The Democrats nominated a flawed candidate and the general public spoke. They were exposed as a fraud, with the DNC basically rigging the primary so Hillary would win. And with the super delegates one would be a fool to even vote for a democrat. This is non American.

    If Trump has a successful 4 year, then it will be a long time before the democrats come around again. It appears as if Obama will go down in history as creating one of the strongest Republican run in history.

    Good Job Dumbo
    The GOP rigged its own primary; it just backfired on them.

    They knew they would need to get Jeb elected with about 25% of the primary vote, so they designed a "splinter strategy" to get it done. Jeb getting elected depended on open primaries and a very large candidate field, with plenty of hometown candidates in early states. Lindsey Graham in SC. George Pataki in NY, Chris Christie to contest NH.

    Plus, dump 100 plus million into Jeb's account to make him a prohibitive favorite.

    There's a website that's a strict Trump fanboi site that talked about the splinter strategy from the beginning and discussed Trump's strategy to co-opt it for his own purposes.

    Trump knew he could be outrageous in the primary because he knew the party bosses had designed it to yield a 25% winner. When you can slice that small, all you need then is to overcome the 100 million dollar advantage. You do that with 2 billion in free advertising.

    The left has a penchant to acclaim Dem candidates as genius savants and GOP candidates as surprisingly being smart enough to walk. Silly posturing. Trump knew what he was doing from the beginning and stole the GOP roadmap.

    Bernie knew from day one the superdelegates were there. His plan didn't include how to co-opt them, so he lost. Pres. Obama knew about them, too. HRC was the prohibitive favorite in 2008, too. Pres. Obama co-opted the superdelegates.

    Just like the EC. You got to play the game by the rules as they exist.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  7. by   heron
    Quote from Markperry
    The Democratic party signed there own death sentence by letting Nancy Pelosi lead them for another two years. They are in free fall mode. The Democrats nominated a flawed candidate and the general public spoke. They were exposed as a fraud, with the DNC basically rigging the primary so Hillary would win. And with the super delegates one would be a fool to even vote for a democrat. This is non American.

    If Trump has a successful 4 year, then it will be a long time before the democrats come around again. It appears as if Obama will go down in history as creating one of the strongest Republican run in history.

    Good Job Dumbo
    Another fact-free exercise in misogyny. The general public spoke volumes indeed when that flawed candidate got two million more votes than Trump. The general public, however, does not elect the president - the electoral college does.
  8. by   Markperry
    I have said it many times. NOBODY doubles down on stupidity like the Democrats.

    Pelosi is prime a example

    Wait a minute ... GOP rejoices over Pelosi win
  9. by   conservativeprof
    Quote from heron
    Another fact-free exercise in misogyny. The general public spoke volumes indeed when that flawed candidate got two million more votes than Trump. The general public, however, does not elect the president - the electoral college does.
    Except the "general public" you speak of was hardly general, being largely from large cities on the East and West Coast (and Chicago). The electoral college resulted in a truly more general public.
  10. by   elkpark
    Quote from heron
    Another fact-free exercise in misogyny. The general public spoke volumes indeed when that flawed candidate got two million more votes than Trump. The general public, however, does not elect the president - the electoral college does.
    Two and a half million so far ... But, yes, one thing Trump was actually right about was that the system is rigged. "The people" spoke, but that doesn't matter; the heavily rigged Electoral College is what counts.
  11. by   chare
    Quote from heron
    ...The general public spoke volumes indeed when that flawed candidate got two million more votes than Trump. The general public, however, does not elect the president - the electoral college does.
    And both candidates were well aware of this, and ran their campaigns accordingly. If the goal had been to win the election based upon popular vote, both candidates would have run their campaigns accordingly, and no one can speculate on that outcome.
  12. by   SC_RNDude
    Quote from heron
    Another fact-free exercise in misogyny. The general public spoke volumes indeed when that flawed candidate got two million more votes than Trump. The general public, however, does not elect the president - the electoral college does.
    Seeing how that Trump won the battleground states he needed and had no chance to win, it seems he well could have won the popular vote if that's what his campaign would have devoted resources to do.
  13. by   ZASHAGALKA
    To finish the thought on who gets the nomination and wins and why:

    Over the last 40 yrs, the GOP has been the party of the next in line. The Dems have pushed the next new celebrity candidate, a newcomer with Star Power.

    GOP: GHW Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney. Except when Bush, Sr ran as a 3rd term for Pres Reagan, this has been a losing strategy.

    When the GOP runs new/novel candidates, Bush43, Trump, they win.

    Dems: Carter, Clinton, Obama, winners.

    HRC, loser. Why? She was next in line.

    Honestly, if the Dem Party had run Warren/Castro, this race would have been a slam dunk for them.

    Even HRC/Castro, signaling the next generation would have brought a different kind of excitement that could have changed close states.

    Since Nixon, (who was originally beat by next new thing Kennedy), the next new thing has beaten the next in line in every election.

    The electorate has been screaming for 2 generations that they want something different in government. Think about that.

    "Next in line" is a losing strategy. And. It has been for a very long time.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  14. by   heron
    Quote from chare
    And both candidates were well aware of this, and ran their campaigns accordingly. If the goal had been to win the election based upon popular vote, both candidates would have run their campaigns accordingly, and no one can speculate on that outcome.
    Ah, yes ... the "I coulda won it if I wanted to" schtick. Doesn't change the fact that he didn't and this whole "I wasn't really trying and besides all those votes were illegal" line is empty posturing. It also ignores the fact that, since neither candidate was focused on winning the popular vote, then Clinton won that majority without really trying either. The whole argument cancels itself out.

    According to the law of the land, he won the election by virtue of winning >270 electoral college votes and is the president-elect. But don't try to pretend that he had anything like a landslide or has anything remotely resembling a popular mandate.

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