The birth of a meme: swiftboating Obama
- 1I think this is something to watch ... I still have a hard time figuring out where the uncrossable "line" is, but it's somewhere around here:
By Judd Legum and Adam Peck on May 6, 2012 at 11:22
A secretive right-wing group, Veterans For A Strong America, is attempting to do to President Obama what the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth did to Sen. John Kerry. And they arenít shy about it. The groupís leader and sole employee, Joel Arends, told Mother Jones, ďYes, itís the swift boating of the president.Ē
Meet the Astroturfer Planning to Swift Boat Obama
"Yes, it's the swift boating of the president," says the founder of a dark-money group claiming to speak for ticked-off Navy SEALs.
óBy Adam Weinstein
| Fri May. 4, 2012 3:00 AM PDT
Veterans for a Strong America describes itself "a grassroots action organization committed to ensuring that America remains a strong nation by advancing liberty, safeguarding freedom and opposing tyranny." Founded in 2010, the ostensibly nonpartisan group kept a low profile until earlier this week, when it posted a splashyonlinead that uses statements from President Barack Obama to suggest that the commander-in-chief boasted about his role in killing Osama bin Laden, dishonoring America's military in the process.
"Heroes don't politicize their acts of valor," the ad declares amid shots of American soldiers and quotes criticizing Obama's "shameless" and "despicable" attempt to claim credit for bin Laden's death. Not all of those quotes are in context: The video flashes "Obama Spikes the bin Laden Football," a headline from a post in which Mother Jones' Kevin Drum wrote that the bin Laden raid proved Obama's "leadership."
Karl Rove praised the ad on Twitter, calling it "powerful," and it rapidly burned up the right-wing blogs. "The swift boating of Obama has begun," The Atlantic announced. "One thing that's clear from this advertisement, if more current and former SEALs decided to come out of the woodwork in opposition to Obama, it could do real damage to him."
Joel Arends, Veterans for a Strong America's founder, chairman, and sole staffer, tells me he's proud of his organization's viral video, even if it's characterized as swift boating. "Yes, it's the swift boating of the president, in the sense of using what's perceived to be his greatest strength and making it his greatest weakness."Last edit by heron on May 6, '12 : Reason: shorten title
- 6Quote from herring_RNInteresting question. I would think its about the same as how many hours the President And his people have spent trying to discredit a former President. And it probably boils down to it being politics. One wonders if, when no longer President, Obama will be completely mum about whomever takes his place. That shows real class and GWB hasn't made a peep about Obama.How many million$ have been spent to bring down the President?How many hours have people spent? It started before he took office.http://allnurses-breakroom.com/us-po...0-page155.html
- 1Heron was not posting about the official Romney Campaign. I think it was about the unaccounted for non campaign money spend to try to make the President fail.
5 Ways Citizens United and Super PACs Have Destroyed the 2012 Elections
...Huge donations are being made to both parties making outside influence on the presidency a real issue. ...
... There will be ample funding to go to expensive markets serving millions of people to make a point with half-truths and spin. ...
Senator McCain corrected people. His running mate encouraged them - Misconceptions of Obama fuel Republican campaign - 13 Oct 08 - YouTube
I admit I really hated the Iraq war. It hurt my soul as an American. Both the first President Bush Gulf War that was clearly about oil and then the second war of choice.
Before he started "Shock and Awe" I liked President Bush. After i literally cried alomost every day for years.
- 2I think it's safe to say that the strategy has been used by everyone who's ever run for public office.
For me, the questions are: is it ethical? Does it help me think critically about an issue?
Where's the line between using advertising techniques to spread a message (for people to think about) and using advertising techniques to game the system (by pushing peoples' non-rational buttons)?
- 1Quote from heronThey are spending tens of millions on a political ploy publicizing allegations, falsehoods, and distortions to discredit the President with the intention of getting the media and voters to discuss whether the allegations are true rather than discuss actual issues.I think this is something to watch ... I still have a hard time figuring out where the uncrossable "line" is, but it's somewhere around here:
Veterans for A Strong America: The Group Trying To Swift Boat Obama
This is the article from Mother Jones being discussed:
Meet the Astroturfer Planning to Swift Boat Obama | Mother Jones
- 3He can't talk about the great economy or job market, his health care plan is in jeopardy, maybe even his determination to ignore illegal immigration...all nothing to brag about. So instead he will continue to bash GWB by saying Romney is more of the same, make up a war on women, yama, Yama, yada. My conservative opinion.
- 1Off topic alert!!!!!!!
Obama administration reports record number of deportations
The Obama administration deported a record number of illegal immigrants for the third straight year, according to figures released Tuesday by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Despite facing criticism from both sides of the political spectrum, officials promised to continue the White House policy of prioritizing for removal those illegal immigrants with criminal convictions. Ö
Obama administration reports record number of deportations - Los Angeles Times