Betsy DeVos Confirmed as Education Secretary - page 3

DeVos confirmed!!!!!!!!! :yes: Good!!!!!!!!!!!! Time to shake up our failing school system in this country. Time to put Math and Science ahead of who uses which bathroom. Time for... Read More

  1. by   Extra Pickles
    Quote from Markperry
    Perhaps that is a good thing, she can bring in a different point of view.
    Different does not mean better. She has no experience in the field in which she has tossed her hat. She has no qualifications of any kind to be an administrator in any public school, so how does she have the qualifications to be in charge on a Federal level? Answer---she doesn't.

    If you or I were to fill out an application, submit a job resume to the administrative offices of any school district in America it would be ignored or we might get that polite "we're sorry, but unfortunately you do not meet the qualifying standards for this position". And that would be correct. But DeVos writes a whole lot of donation checks with a whole lot of "0's" in them and this makes her qualified to bring that "different point of view" you seek? No. She has no credentials, she bought her job.

    My kudos go to the two Republicans who crossed the ever-present party lines to vote AGAINST this abomination.
  2. by   Extra Pickles
    Quote from Markperry
    I would of voted Democrat if they would of put up a better choice and candidate, I voted for Bill Clinton. I was just tired of seeing the way the US was headed and Hillary just represented the same ole same ole again.
    You "would of"? I'm genuinely curious, do you hold a nursing license? From what state? Or are you a student somewhere?
  3. by   Extra Pickles
    Quote from Lil Nel
    Yep. This is true, unfortunately. A Kentucky Congressman, Thomas Massey, introduced it (I believe). The thing to know about Massey, is that he is a right-wing Tea Party person.

    If public education is left to the states, well, the poor, unfortunate children living in Kentucky.
    It's been long understood that people choose to move to areas where they can find well-paying jobs, reasonable taxes for the services they provide, and where their children can attend schools of quality. With the changes that are proposed, national programming becoming local in the form of Federal oversight being turned over to individual states, I think we're going to see some areas of this country being practically evacuated of those who hold higher education standards to be dear.


    First the discussion about not needing a Federal healthcare program, letting the states handle that, then privatizing the VA hospital system and letting poor veterans fend for themselves, then not needing a Federal education program, let the states handle that, I wonder how long before it's not just the South looking to Secede but everyone outside of Washington DC!! Left to run the country in the direction they are, the Trumpies will make the only value of the Federal government be the ability to start a freaking war with everyone who crosses them!!
  4. by   herring_RN
    Quote from herring_RN
    I'm sorry some have lost their pride in our country.
    I have been and remain proud of our country.
    I will do all I can to help us continue being great.
    I posted this elsewhere yesterday, but love to post it here too. Tweety: Could the video be Florids?
    It is Conservative Republican genius flat-picker North Carolina's Doc Watson and liberal Pete Seeger (And other greats) communicating in the universal language of music. Both Americans have provided joy to those of us blessed to hear them in their ninty plus years.
    49 years ago I was pregnant with my daughter. Some asked, "How can you bring a child into this mess?"
    That year our own National Guard shot and killed students at Kent state, both protesters and students trying to get to class. Martin Luther King Jr. was killed.
    The day I voted for Robert Kennedy and he won he was killed on live TV in my city.
    There was a riot outside the Democratic convention and the nominee of the party didn't even enter a primary.
    In my opinion President Nixon did some good and some wrong. Turned out he was a crook.
    No one is perfect.

    I believe in my soul that the United States of America will remain great and continue to get better. More steps forward than backward.)
    Please indulge me again with more music.
  5. by   toomuchbaloney
    Quote from Extra Pickles
    Different does not mean better. She has no experience in the field in which she has tossed her hat. She has no qualifications of any kind to be an administrator in any public school, so how does she have the qualifications to be in charge on a Federal level? Answer---she doesn't.

    If you or I were to fill out an application, submit a job resume to the administrative offices of any school district in America it would be ignored or we might get that polite "we're sorry, but unfortunately you do not meet the qualifying standards for this position". And that would be correct. But DeVos writes a whole lot of donation checks with a whole lot of "0's" in them and this makes her qualified to bring that "different point of view" you seek? No. She has no credentials, she bought her job.

    My kudos go to the two Republicans who crossed the ever-present party lines to vote AGAINST this abomination.
    Alaskans called both of their Senators in opposition to DeVos.
    Murkowski listened (although she SHOULD have killed the appointment in committee).
    Sullivan ignored his constituents, made it impossible for them to contact him and did not respond to email or snail mail.

    He took the money, kissed the party ring and stepped right in line like a good GOP recruit.
  6. by   Tweety
    Quote from Extra Pickles
    You "would of"? I'm genuinely curious, do you hold a nursing license? From what state? Or are you a student somewhere?
    I'm pretty sure most of us understood. This is not an English class where we are writing papers to be corrected. (Of course I say that as I make a lot of errors here.)

    Are YOU a 'grammar Nazi'? You're probably a jerk: Language pedants are more likely to be introverted and disagreeable | Daily Mail Online
  7. by   MunoRN
    I have to agree with Extra Pickles, while I'm not necessarily opposed to change for the sake of change, it's important to recognize that change can for the better or for the worse.

    The 'reforms' DeVos has led resulted in worse schools overall; only a relatively small number of charter schools had performance that was equal to or better than public schools, the vast majority performed significantly worse and at a higher cost, which is why charter school lobbying groups don't even support DeVos.
  8. by   nursej22
    Quote from Markperry
    Free Public Education, Now that is funny.

    I pay almost $8,000 per year, or almost $700 per month school tax where I live and I have no kids.

    Tell me again about this "Free" Education
    That's an impressive tax bill for education alone. In my state,property taxes fund public education, both tuition-free K-12, and some to colleges.

    I figure my $2200 a year is payback for the excellent start I received that set the foundation for completing undergrad and grad school for my self and children.

    Truly, you don't think taxes are going down once Devos destroys the Education Department, do you?
  9. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    I believe that many tea party legislators have a very simplistic, even childish notion of the federal government.
    That's correct. They are all about a smaller federal government; i.e., less regulation, but more intrusive government; i.e. stringent abortion regulations.

    The governor of Kentucky, Matt Bevin, is a Tea Party person. He attempted for unseat Mitch McConnell a few years ago and was slayed. So he settled for the governorship. He has been busy trying to dismantle anything worthwhile in this state (and there is little to be proud of here in the Blue Grass).

    All in the name of smaller government: LESS regulation.
  10. by   Markperry
    Quote from nursej22
    That's an impressive tax bill for education alone. In my state,property taxes fund public education, both tuition-free K-12, and some to colleges.

    I figure my $2200 a year is payback for the excellent start I received that set the foundation for completing undergrad and grad school for my self and children.

    Truly, you don't think taxes are going down once Devos destroys the Education Department, do you?
    Same here, my school tax is based upon appraised value of Property Tax. I have been in my new house 8 years, It has never went down, only up up and up.
  11. by   toomuchbaloney
    Quote from Markperry
    Same here, my school tax is based upon appraised value of Property Tax. I have been in my new house 8 years, It has never went down, only up up and up.
    gee
    Thanks Obama.
  12. by   heron
    Found an interesting bit here:

    Someone out there really wants President Donald Trump’s polarizing nominee for secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, to get the job — so much so that they’ve been paying random internet users to write notes supporting her contentious confirmation.

    Users on paid task sites like InstaGC, Swagbucks, which reward users for shopping at certain websites or completing small tasks and surveys online, as well as ‘freemium’-based mobile fashion game Covet Fashion, have been reporting a task that links to SupportDeVos.com. The website contains a contact form to get in touch with members of Congress — but only to send notes of support for DeVos’s confirmation. Users who fill out and send the support form earn points or actual cash, but there is no option to send a note of dissent.

    Spokespersons for InstaGC as well as the company that runs Covet Fashion each confirmed that the ads recently appeared on their sites and have since been removed.

    The ads attempted to convince users they were paid for by the American Federation for Children, an organization funded and previously chaired by DeVos. But they weren’t. Spokespersons for DeVos and AFC confirmed to Vox that neither she nor the AFC had purchased the ads. Spokespersons for InstaGC and Covet Fashion each confirmed to Vox that the ads were paid for by advertisers using third-party vendors.
    Someone paid random internet users to lobby for Betsy DeVos's confirmation - Vox
  13. by   Extra Pickles
    Quote from Tweety
    I'm pretty sure most of us understood. This is not an English class where we are writing papers to be corrected. (Of course I say that as I make a lot of errors here.)

    Are YOU a 'grammar Nazi'? You're probably a jerk: Language pedants are more likely to be introverted and disagreeable | Daily Mail Online
    I'm not a grammar Nazi, that's offensive. While I believe most people understood what he was saying, I found it strange that someone who is supposed to be nurse or a nursing student (according to the forum title, anyway) would use phrases like "would of" instead of "would have".

    I make mistakes too. I also let TONS of them slide, haven't commented on any that were barely understandable, and I've done so with every post I've been reading here the last few days. Choosing to react to one doesn't make me a "jerk", thank you.

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