60 Minutes engages in fake (misleading) news

  1. I just read about the 60 minutes report on Remington rifles. I am disappointed they made such a misleading report.

    Remington Fights Back Against Fake News 6 Minutes Attack - GunsAmerica Digest
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  3. by   herring_RN
    I saw that and remembered my uncle's teaching.
    NEVER AIM A GUN AT ANYONE.

    Of course we feel terrible for that father and the man who at age 11 killed his little brother.
    But he should have been terrified of getting that gun at all without his parent' or surrogate supervising.

    We would,'t have gone near our uncle's guns. His sons and daughters, who learned to shoot when their Dad decided they were ready never did unless he was with them. They were right there in the closet on the floor next to the shoes. I got nervous looking at them.
    Why did I get nervous? Because I knew my uncle loved me and all of us. Because I trusted him. Because I believed him. Because I felt his fear. Because I feared his disappointment in me if I even touched a rifle. Because he would know and our relationship would never ever be the same.

    Too bad that 11 year old was able to aim a gun at his brother. He and his family suffer every day.

    How can parents KNOW their children will not touch the guns?
  4. by   azhiker96
    All a parent can do is try to teach their child well. A parent can never totally know what their kids do when they are not around whether it is being reckless with guns, dashing into the street, swimming without supervision, playing with fire, or other.

    My brothers and I grew up with guns and both Mom and Dad impressed upon us to not even touch them without one of them present. If needed, the lesson would have been impressed on our backsides as well.
  5. by   toomuchbaloney
    My children grew up with guns and hunting and shooting sports. When my oldest was in middle school a neighbor kid shot one of her playmates in the head with a handgun. It was a tragic and fatal accident but no adult gun owner was punished for the reckless maintenance of a deadly weapon.

    We can do better.
    We don't care or want to do better.
  6. by   Tweety
    Can you do any better than an article that talks of media being "fake news" and of "snowflakes". The point is lost on me worth my time to read.

    I'm probably shutting myself off from people because I have quit reading when I read such insults, and yes this includes insults from my friends on the left and their name calling. I might be missing some good stuff but I just cringe, shut my mind and stop.
  7. by   Tweety
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    We can do better.
    We don't care or want to do better.
    Any attempt whatsoever is lead with such resistance of trampling over people's rights people just give up. I'd like to think people care that children are dying, that 10's of thousands of suffering happens, but we're all at a point of acceptance saying "what can we do".

    Plus, who has the heart to punish a parent that just lost a child?
  8. by   toomuchbaloney
    Quote from Tweety
    Any attempt whatsoever is lead with such resistance of trampling over people's rights people just give up. I'd like to think people care that children are dying, that 10's of thousands of suffering happens, but we're all at a point of acceptance saying "what can we do".

    Plus, who has the heart to punish a parent that just lost a child?
    It wasn't the parent's handgun.
  9. by   herring_RN
    The one on Sixty minutes belonged to the 15 year old. He said, "I had been taught better than that."
    It starts at about 25:45.
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  10. by   Tweety
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    It wasn't the parent's handgun.

    Sorry, I didn't know the story. I was referring mainly to how we could do better. Florida I think once, and maybe still does have a law on the books that punishes adults whose children get killed with a gun. It's not enforced because like I said, who wants to punish a parent who just lost a child.

    It's a dilemma in order to protect your family your gun needs to be readily available, but to have a child it needs to be hidden, under lock and key and not loaded, and in no way can help you in a home invasion unless you're fast and in that room where it is.
  11. by   azhiker96
    Remington Responds to 6 Minutes | Remington
    Quote from Tweety
    Can you do any better than an article that talks of media being "fake news" and of "snowflakes". The point is lost on me worth my time to.
    Remmingtons response was linked and quoted in the article. It just includes the facts without insults.

    In short, 60 minutes presented that Remington rifles are unsafe and fire without touching the trigger. However, in the two examples they covered, experts examined the rifles and found no flaws. 60 minutes did not include that in their report.
  12. by   Tweety
    Quote from azhiker96
    Remington Responds to 6 Minutes | Remington

    Remmingtons response was linked and quoted in the article. It just includes the facts without insults.

    In short, 60 minutes presented that Remington rifles are unsafe and fire without touching the trigger. However, in the two examples they covered, experts examined the rifles and found no flaws. 60 minutes did not include that in their report.
    I appreciate that.
  13. by   azhiker96
    I have the same issue Tweety. You're welcome. I should have just posted Remington or found a more civil blogger to link.
  14. by   margin261
    Tweety- you should've kept on reading the article. You must not have gotten to the part where the author compared 60 Minutes interview with the "child shooter" as fake & scripted as those 'fake Sandy Hook actors'.

    A caveat-I haven't watched the 60 Minutes segment, but I don't think posting an article from someone who, apparently, believes Sandy Hook was a government hoax to 'take our guns' is a legitimate rebuttal.

    He also states that accidental discharges are 'something that just has to happen' and if you aren't being careful with your muzzle, well yeah, sometimes people get in the way of your bullets. But hey, unless you're in New York- they usually don't hold it against you!!

    I've said before, I grew up around guns & currently own quite a few. (And I've never had a accidental discharge). My father taught us to have great respect for what they could do & yes, when we were young, don't touch them unless he was there. But we were also taught you don't ever point a gun at someone & you always treat a gun as if it's loaded.

    I seem to remember a while back they tried to pass a gun safety law about trigger locks or something similar but of course, it was shot down. (No pun intended) I'm all for people being able to own guns- responsible people, with all the appropriate checks done & getting training to know how to use & care for them. We have way to many children accidentally killing other kids in this country, and it's the responsibility of the adults to stop it.

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