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  1. ooooooo----- weeeeee!! Lookee here what I found~ What's your take on it?

    Here's the link: http://www.stpetersburgtimes.com/200...ans_new_.shtml

    Lee sheriff bans new hires who smoke
    ©Associated Press
    October 23, 2002
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    FORT MYERS -- Tobacco users need not apply for vacancies in the Lee County Sheriff's Office.

    The department said Monday it will no longer hire deputies who use tobacco. New hires will be required to sign no-tobacco pledges, with violations potentially resulting in termination.

    Current deputies are now also prohibited from using tobacco products while on duty. All sheriff's office buildings in Lee County are already tobacco-free.

    "Over time, the agency will become a totally smoke-free environment," said department chief Dave Bonsall.

    Banning tobacco use cuts down on health care costs, with deputies taking fewer days off and needing less medical care, said Tom Berlinger, a spokesman for the Florida Sheriff's Association.

    Bonsall said Lee Sheriff Rod Shoap enacted the stricter policy out of respect for the public.

    "More and more people had been witnessing deputies smoking and saying that it wasn't appropriate," Bonsall said.

    Palm Beach County enacted a similar policy for its sheriff's deputies last year, and some other Florida law enforcement agencies ban tobacco use by on-duty employees.
    Last edit by Sleepyeyes on Oct 23, '02
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  2. 28 Comments

  3. by   LasVegasRN
    How can you ban people that are doing something legal? I'm not a smoker but even I take offense to that.
  4. by   Q.
    WOW.

    I can see the enforcing the no tobacco on the facilities or premises; there are many organizations that are smoke-free. As a matter of fact, both my husband's employer and MY employer wouldn't even let you smoke right outside the door. You had to walk to the parking lot and smoke IN YOUR CAR! They say it looked bad for business to see people standing around in gaggles smoking. I tend to agree. It looks unprofessional.

    As far as not HIRING anyone who smokes? Uh, no I don't agree with that. Smoking in and of itself does not have anything to do with your effectiveness on the job. Also, what if they were non-smokers upon hire, but then TOOK UP smoking? Are they fired?

    Interesting topic, Sleepy.

    Edited to say: they may have a point, though. I re-read the part about having deputies not smoke while working. And at first I disagree with that because we all know of alot of people who smoke at work (on their breaks). But we certainly don't walk up to a bank teller and see her taking a drag while serving us, etc. Maybe that is what they were trying to enforce.
    Last edit by Susy K on Oct 23, '02
  5. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    I have to agree with Vegas. As long as it's still legal, it's sounds a little discriminatory to me.

    Heather (1 year smoke free )
  6. by   Robin61970
    Also non smoker, but I smell a lawsuit over this one.......not a fan of this decision though because it is discriminatory.....
    Last edit by Robin61970 on Oct 23, '02
  7. by   shannonRN
    wow, wow, and wow. i don't see how they can do this. i can understand telling someone that they cannot smoke while they are on duty, but in the privacy of their own home when they aren't on duty? it will be interesting to see what becomes of this.
  8. by   Sleepyeyes
    Originally posted by OBNURSEHEATHER
    Heather (1 year smoke free )
    Congatulations! 14 years for me.... one day atta time....
  9. by   Stargazer
    Sleepyeyes, can you post the link for that article? I can't find it on the AP website or Florida newspaper websites.

    There's a knock-down, drag-out (heh) debate going on on one of my other BBs about anti-smoking laws. I thought I'd go over and throw another log on the fire (yes, I'm evil!).
  10. by   Sleepyeyes
    heh heh...You got it Stargazer-- I edited the original because I usually do post the link, and forgot this time.... oops :imbar:

    have fun!
  11. by   kaycee
    The workplace has a right to ban smoking in or on the premises and while you are working. What you do on your on time is your own business. This is ridiculous.

    Now what about alcohol, and eating fatty foods. Don't get me wrong I don't think anyone should dictate what bad habits you are or are not allowed but why do they always pick on smoking?
    Do not these other 2 things have health consequences too.
    Maybe they should ban donuts, if you're a cop you must sign a pledge that you will never eat another donut. It clogs your arteries and makes you too fat and unhealthy.( don't get offended here, I'm married to a cop, just trying to prove a point).
  12. by   shannonRN
    Originally posted by Kaycee
    Maybe they should ban donuts, if you're a cop you must sign a pledge that you will never eat another donut.
    :roll :roll
  13. by   SmilingBluEyes
    i HATE smoking more than anything but I feel this is discriminatory and if allowed, opens the door too all sorts of arbitrary exclusions in hiring practices. It ought to be against the law? Where is the ACLU in this? To me, this is not debatable....it is wrong.
  14. by   CATHYW
    Well, you don't want a smoker puffing and wheezing, trying to catch up with a frisky young offender! On the other hand, you don't want a deputy puffing and wheezing (because they've been doing too many donuts and not doing enough PT), trying to catch up with a frisky young offender, either!

    This is a very fine line...

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