wonder if they'll protest this?

  1. According to news just on, a film from Al Jazzera shows American prisioners of war. Dead. Those who have viewed it feel that some of the soldiers were executed.
    Right now I am so angry that I can hardly contain myself. Those against the war that have actively protested, will you also now carry signs requesting that the Iraqi's follow the Geneva Convention and not execute our soldiers?
    For so many that have walked that thin line between protest and support of soldiers(and not just people on this board) will you also protest this?
    You know what I'm going to get back out of this post? War is horrid, if we didn't start it then it wouldn't have happened. We should pray for all involved, etc... but will you go out and raise a voice and a sign that says what Iraq did was wrong?
    What I am going to get back? The evil Americans brought down a RAF plane, bombs have killed civilians, no thought of how much effort has gone into attempting to make sure it doesn't happen. No thought that a regime that is deliberately taking the fight into a heavily civilian area is using their own people as shields. So whatever, all's fair in love and war right?
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  3. by   emily_mom
    I also saw some militia shooting into the Tigres River under the assumption that two pilots had parachuted and were in there. Disgusting.

    Iraq is just doing to our soldiers what they have done to their own people for years. I don't understand why these protesters have such a hard time seeing that.

    I understand where you're coming from in respect to the protesters, but unfortunately, it will be twisted to such that if we had not been there, it wouldn't have happened. There is no way to win with them.

    I just hope that nothing happens in our country while the police are busy trying to keep the peace and arresting "peaceful" demonstrators. It's taking away from the protection of our cities.

    Kristy
  4. by   fergus51
    OK, I have never protested and disagree with what many of them say and do, but I just don't get this? Why would they be any less horrified and disgusted as any of the rest of us at seeing something like that, and why is it fair to question that? I don't see how it is any better than all the "if Bush didn't start it this wouldn't have happened" camp. Why does being against a particular military action mean they wouldn't think executing American POWs is wrong or think that using human shields is a good thing?
  5. by   Hardknox
    It will just be another excuse for the protesters (LasVegas RN please note) to rant aginst GWB. It's all his fault according to their thinking.
  6. by   semstr
    Helen, pretty emotional post! Understandable, but not fair on a lot of us anti-war-people, to be honest!
    I protest that action of the Iraqi , exactly as strong, even stronger as I do the other war actions.

    And, although I can't understand how on earth it is possbile in our high tech time etc. , to shoot down friendly planes or how 2 helicopters can colide with each other, things like this happen unfortunately.
    I haven't heard or read one voice here on the many tv networks, blaming the US for that.


    Helen, do take care of yourself!
  7. by   rncountry
    Yea, this is an emotional post! Unfortunately Renee, accidents happen every day, those of us who have been trauma or ER can certainly attest to that.
    Wait until you see the protestors in the middle east or perhaps Indonesia or the Palastinines dancing in the street about this.
    Why do I feel this way fergus? Because everything in the world that could possibly be wrong has been laid at the foot of Ole Uncle Sam for so long that I fully expect no one to be taken to task expect us.
    By the way, one of the prisioners of war that is alive is a woman.
  8. by   Rhoresmith
    Ok I just recieved an email from my sister-in-law, she got a email from my brother it was very short and it said " What in the hell do those protesters think they can acomplish we are here and we can't just stop they murdered American soldiers (POW's). We have been treating their soldiers wounds feeding them and treating them with dignity" the rest is not fit to be printed... and actually he could get in trouble for even sending it but the soldiers feel these protest and they hurt. So I am not saying you should'nt be against this but you need to be aware that soldiers and their families FEEL this and it hurts I love my country and I say GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE FIGHTING !!

    Rhonda
    Pray for an end soon !!!!
  9. by   MishlB
    It was ABSOLUTELY wrong what Iraq did (photographing the US soldiers), but then again why is anyone surprised? They have not played by any rules up until this point, so why should they start now. I fully support the troops as well as our president. This war was inevitable. How else would Hussein be stopped? You cannot negotiate with evil. Casualties of war are going to happen, but that is what makes me so proud of the Americans that have volunteered their time and lives in support of their country and the support of all those who cannot defend their freedom.
  10. by   StuPer
    Hello Helen,
    Your anger is understandable..... and of course I would protest against an abuse of the geneva convention. However its no surprise... if you read Andy McNabb's excellent book Bravo Two Zero about his time in the first Gulf War when he operated as an SAS soldier and was eventually caught by the Iraqi's. His detailing of the things he saw in an Iraqi prison are enough to turn anyone's hair grey.
    I also won't get into the 'the soldiers would'nt be there to get caught if...' debate... it won't help anyone least of all the soldiers that have been captured.
    It shows the American military in a good light that they treat their prisoners so well, but passions have been inflamed on the Iraqi side as the Al Jasseira (spelling) station has apparantly been showing video of people killed in the inital bombing of Baghdad... one of which showed a child with the back of its head blown off..... emotions are way out of control here but there is no excuse for atrocities on POW's. Its at times like this I wonder if the role that the new media play is for any good... after all if there was'nt a willing film crew and plenty of organisations on both side of the fence willing to go along with this, would this have ever happened.... who knows.
    All anyone can do is pray for the safety of the prisoners and the troops over there.
    regards StuPer
  11. by   semstr
    Originally posted by rncountry
    Yea, this is an emotional post! Unfortunately Renee, accidents happen every day, those of us who have been trauma or ER can certainly attest to that.
    Wait until you see the protestors in the middle east or perhaps Indonesia or the Palastinines dancing in the street about this.
    Why do I feel this way fergus? Because everything in the world that could possibly be wrong has been laid at the foot of Ole Uncle Sam for so long that I fully expect no one to be taken to task expect us.
    By the way, one of the prisioners of war that is alive is a woman.
    They will be dancing in the street and getting ready for revenge anyway, Helen.
    And I am sorry to say: this woman is a soldier too............but first of all a human being!
  12. by   emily_mom
    Originally posted by Rhoresmith
    Ok I just recieved an email from my sister-in-law, she got a email from my brother it was very short and it said " What in the hell do those protesters think they can acomplish we are here and we can't just stop they murdered American soldiers (POW's). We have been treating their soldiers wounds feeding them and treating them with dignity" the rest is not fit to be printed... and actually he could get in trouble for even sending it but the soldiers feel these protest and they hurt. So I am not saying you should'nt be against this but you need to be aware that soldiers and their families FEEL this and it hurts I love my country and I say GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE FIGHTING !!

    Rhonda
    Pray for an end soon !!!!
    Your post really makes it hit home. Thank you for sharing that with us.

    I want to know why in the hell CNN is broadcasting these pictures! We're not sitting on the couch, watching Al-Jazeera TV, are we?

    It disgusts me, and I can't even begin to imagine how these families feel.

    Renee, you're right! They will be celebrating in the streets. Such a shame.

    They are quick to show what we have done to civilians, but what about SH? He has committed atrocities against the citizens for years...why isn't that shown?

    And how do we even know that our forces killed that child? You know how they like to do atrocious things and then blame us.

    I have to stop talking about this before I lose my lunch......:imbar
  13. by   rncountry
    I am not watching news, I am listening to NPR. I don't feel it is healthy for my 7 year old to see it. My teenagers on the other hand are old enough to realize that there are really evil people out there.
    My question is truly this. The protestors we have seen in the streets of capitals and major cities around the world, will we see them also carrying signs that protest against what the Iraqi's have done? It's truly a rhetorical question, because I already know the answer.
    I have a cousin in Kuwait, I don't know if he is in Iraq or not. One of my coworkers is there as a nurse. There are 10 young people in our church that are in the armed forces and 8 of them are over there.
    Your right, why should I expect anything different from the Iraqi's? But the larger point is can I expect something different from the protestors who have been banging drums, blowing whistles and calling the president George W. Hitler?
    And CNN should be taken to task in a very concrete way for airing footage like this. I don't watch CNN unless I catch it in a patients room because I turned our satalite off a couple months ago. Too much cartoon watching by my little one. So I mostly listen to NPR like I said.
  14. by   semstr
    Austrian tv is not showing the pictures of these poor POW, until they are sure the families of these soldiers have been informed!
    This may be just a little gesture, but I think it is good this way.

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