Which President is for Nurses?

  1. There has been much on this board about "Nurses for Kerrry" & "Nurses for Bush". I did a search on each candidate's website for information on nurses...Typed in the word "Nurse" to see which candiate truely cares (or at least mentions) nurses & nursing issues.

    Here's the first link from each search...I encourage you to do the same to view the entire results

    Kerry:
    http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/nurses/

    Bush:
    http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=2173

    Decide for yourself as to which one is relevant.
    Last edit by aRNnAR on Jul 5, '04
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  2. 40 Comments

  3. by   MellowOne
    Quote from aRNnAR
    There has been much on this board about "Nurses for Kerrry" & "Nurses for Bush". I did a search on each candidate's website for information on nurses...Typed in the word "Nurse" to see which candiate truely cares (or at least mentions) nurses & nursing issues.
    And my view, along with many others, is that nurses should vote for the man that they think will be best for the country as opposed to their own narrow self-interests. I'll say it again... I don't want more federal bureaucracies digging into our profession.

    Kerry and Edwards both had their teams get together with the ANA, and then wrote positions parroting the ANA line. Of course, Kerry's promised to create 10 million new jobs for our 8 million unemployed people. I can't think of anything that Kerry wouldn't promise to any group that he happens to be standing in front of.

    I don't believe Kerry, and I don't like the ANA's endorsement of him. I think that President Bush is doing as good a job as anyone could under very difficult circumstances.

    Be well...

    The Mellow One
  4. by   Dixiedi
    Quote from aRNnAR
    There has been much on this board about "Nurses for Kerrry" & "Nurses for Bush". I did a search on each candidate's website for information on nurses...Typed in the word "Nurse" to see which candiate truely cares (or at least mentions) nurses & nursing issues.

    Here's the first link from each search...I encourage you to do the same to view the entire results

    Kerry:
    http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/nurses/

    Bush:
    http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=2173

    Decide for yourself as to which one is relevant.


    Yep, looks to me like Kerry jumped on the popular bandwagons while sitting in the senate. It's too easy for someone with his pollitical background to appear as though they have been active for a "cause" while in fact all they've done is tell their administrative assistants to pass along the endorsment, have the speech writer write a short speech or two, maybe even actually show up at work and vote a couple of times and then roll in the glory of having supported a VERY LARGE BODY within his voting public. LOL
    I can't understand why so many people can't see Kerry for what he is. A man who says whatever he and "his people" believe the audience for the day want to hear.
  5. by   Rhoresmith
    :chuckle :chuckle is all I have to say
  6. by   MrsWampthang
    Quote from Dixiedi
    Yep, looks to me like Kerry jumped on the popular bandwagons while sitting in the senate. It's too easy for someone with his pollitical background to appear as though they have been active for a "cause" while in fact all they've done is tell their administrative assistants to pass along the endorsment, have the speech writer write a short speech or two, maybe even actually show up at work and vote a couple of times and then roll in the glory of having supported a VERY LARGE BODY within his voting public. LOL
    I can't understand why so many people can't see Kerry for what he is. A man who says whatever he and "his people" believe the audience for the day want to hear.

    Yep. Totally agree!

    Pam
  7. by   MrsWampthang
    Quote from MellowOne
    And my view, along with many others, is that nurses should vote for the man that they think will be best for the country as opposed to their own narrow self-interests. I'll say it again... I don't want more federal bureaucracies digging into our profession.

    Kerry and Edwards both had their teams get together with the ANA, and then wrote positions parroting the ANA line. Of course, Kerry's promised to create 10 million new jobs for our 8 million unemployed people. I can't think of anything that Kerry wouldn't promise to any group that he happens to be standing in front of.

    I don't believe Kerry, and I don't like the ANA's endorsement of him. I think that President Bush is doing as good a job as anyone could under very difficult circumstances.

    Be well...

    The Mellow One
    Well said. Totally agree!

    Pam
  8. by   AnnB
    [QUOTE=Traumamama59]Well said. Totally agree!


    What is wrong with you people? America's health care is in crisis! Anyone who talks about universal health care gets my vote! We are the richest country in the world and over 40 million people do not have access to healthcare.We have one of the highest infant mortality rates in the world for an industrialised nation.The elderly have to make decisions whether they eat properly or buy medications, that are outrageously overpriced and kept that way by all the special interest groups whose only interest is to make huge profits at our expense.Bush counteracted by supposedly instituting a new medicare plan with discount cards, that are so confusing most seniors don't understand them.He lied about the cost of this plan which was more expensive than he said. Also the cost of these"cheaper drugs" were hiked up just before the plan went into action. Children and the poor are being kicked off state medicaid programs to save money.Chronic conditions that are treatable are becoming acute, because the uninsured end up in emergency rooms as a last resort. If you guys were less selfish about your own needs and more concerned about the greater good of the nation's health and your patients health, you would vote for someone who has the courage to even bring the issue to the table.It is imoral that this so called "christian nation" cares so little about the less fortunate and is more interested in the bottom dollar!
    Ann


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  9. by   Spidey's mom
    Any politician who mentions favoring a bureaucratic nightmare of universal healthcare won't be getting my vote.

    MellowOne . . .I agree with your response.

    steph
  10. by   MrsWampthang
    As many lies as Kerry has told, as many times as he has changed his vote to please the group he stands in front of, do you really think he is sincere in what he is saying in his run for president? That's what bothers me. How does anyone know what this man will do once he is in office? He won't be getting my vote, because he really stands for nothing consistant.

    JMHO, Pam
  11. by   AnnB
    [QUOTE=stevielynn]Any politician who mentions favoring a bureaucratic nightmare of universal healthcare won't be getting my vote.

    MellowOne . . .I agree with your response.

    steph[/QUO
    TE] Have you ever worked in a universal health care system? I have and believe me this system is worse. People are not denied care because of inability to pay, and nurses can get on with the job of nursing and not having to go through the minefields of what the insurance companies will and won't pay for. This system creates so many inequities and creates a tiered system. Great for the rich, but screws the poor Look at the kind of bureaucracies you have now . Duplication of care, co-pays, premiums. Insurance companies are holding this country to ransom,refusing to pay for so called 'experimental treatments'. People pay into this system and get dictated to by the insurance companies
    I actually like a system where I can nurse and not have to check if an insurance company will pay for a treatment or not. If you call that bureaucracy well then your definition is different to mine. Yes these systems are not perfect, and you may have to wait for treatments. Here you are paying exhorbitant amounts of money and yes you still have to wait to see specialists , so we are getting screwed twice over. You also don't have to worry about insurance rates rising and your coverage being reduced.

    Ann
  12. by   AnnB
    [QUOTE=Traumamama59]As many lies as Kerry has told, as many times as he has changed his vote to please the group he stands in front of, do you really think he is sincere in what he is saying in his run for president? That's what bothers me. How does anyone know what this man will do once he is in office? He won't be getting my vote, because he really stands for nothing consistant.

    JM
    HO, Pam[/ QUOTE] Someone who is able to listen and make informed decisions is insincere? So someone who stands firmly behind decisions and doesn't change their mind, even though these decisions have now been proved wrong is sincere! Look at the facts ,this administration engineered a war on false pretences, and lied to this country about it, so that is sincere! Look at what this man in office has done. 800 more mother's son's and daughters would be still alive if we had known the truth. How do you know Kerry is not consistant? Have you looked at his policies or do you get your news from Fox TV that 'fair and balanced' news organization.
    Have you had to go to food banks to get food, go and visit and see how many destitute people there are going for help and talk to the people who run these places they will tell you how their population has tripled in the last three years under this administration, not all of these people are welfare recipiants, they are the 'working poor' Do you honestly believe that Kerry could do any worse, I am prepared to give him a chance for the good of this country, and for the middle class of this country who are being hit hard by this government and now are really the working class. We need to narrow the gap between the haves and the have nots , but if you vote for Bush that's not going to happen.

    Ann
  13. by   Spidey's mom
    I never said our system was perfect. Bureaucracy has riddled it with problems too. Which is why I want to vote for someone who will at least lean towards reducing government involvement in my career. Not to mention my husband's career (logging).

    To veer to logging . . . there was a fire about 10 years ago locally. Environmental groups held up logging firms salvaging the timber that could still be used and cleaning up the fire zone and replanting until the wood was unusable. Now that forest sits there like a war zone.

    Common sense! That is what I'm looking for in a candidate. Granted, President Bush signed that abhorrent Medicare Bill and I'm still mad about that but probably for different reasons than you are. However, he still leans towards less government while Kerry does not.

    steph
  14. by   bluesky
    Hi all. I am quietly proceeding with my no-political threads diet and all is well, really. I was just noticing though that I really think the conservative to progressive ratio on allnurses is quite balanced out at this point, don't you think?

    Most of us who engaged in these hard core debates are truely commited to one position or another... why not let some of the moderates who are actually conflicted discuss the issues among themselves without trying to bully them with our Michael Moore/ Ann Coulter -esque dogma?

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