Where is he?

  1. Saddam quit Iraq
    'days ago'
    03/04/2003 23:02 - (SA)


    Jerusalem - DEBKAfile's - known for its accurate intelligence reports - has tracked down the top Iraqi leadership's bolt-hole.

    It is a large 1 600-room luxury resort with 600m of private sandy beach in the Mediterranean coastal town of Latakiya called Cote d'Azur De Cham Resort, prepaid and chartered in toto by Baghdad.

    The group may include Saddam Hussein or his sons, but this is not confirmed.

    Top Iraqi officials are reported to have been hiding there since March 23, four days after the US-led coalition invaded Iraq. They are guarded by a Syrian commando unit armed with anti-air missiles while Syrian naval missile boats secure the port.

    DEBKA military sources also report: The Iraqi troops sent to reinforce Baghdad's international airport are members of the Iraqi 26th Brigade's special commando unit, whose sole task is to defend the lives of Saddam Hussein and close family.

    These commandos take orders from no one but the Iraqi ruler and his sons, who are unlikely to have stripped themselves of this protection if they were still present in the capital.

    This outward movement from Baghdad is further indication of drastic changes in the Iraqi government's top level.


    Saddam left 'days ago'

    The little hard information reaching DEBKA's most reliable intelligence sources is that Saddam and his sons departed Baghdad some days ago.

    They do not know where he went, or in what state of health, whether he travelled abroad for medical treatment or the family headed for a safe berth prepared in advance, or even if they arrived safely at their destination.

    But it is safe to say that Saddam and the senior members of his family are no longer at the helm of government.

    Iraq is undoubtedly in the process of regime change, the main objective of the Iraqi War.

    Anything beyond that is hazy, DEBKA says.

    Other members of the Saddam regime may have seized power after the ruler himself departed.

    The new ruling caste may be divided between a faction negotiating terms of surrender with the Americans and a second, which is determined to fight on.

    entire article can be seen at: http://www.news24.com/News24/World/I...342899,00.html

    So the question remains still, where is he really?

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  2. 25 Comments

  3. by   Mkue
    Would he really flee his country and let his people carry on the fight? Call for a Holy War and then not stay and fight?

    Or would he want to stay until the very end supporting those who are fighting for him?

    Is he planning on using chemical warfare and wants to get the heck out of Dodge?

  4. by   Mkue
    NO SADDAM TO SYRIA

    Apparently US intelligence has picked up "chatter" in Baghdad about a possible last-ditch plan to let Saddam and his sons and cronies escape into Syria in order to prevent thousands of more civilian deaths.

    General Tommy Franks, while not answering this question yesterday, has been briefed by intelligence on this possibility.


    Under no circumstances can the United States allow Saddam to go into exile anywhere.

    Why not?

    Because if he survives this war and goes into exile in some nearby Arab nation, he will still be a mortal threat to the United States. He will still have command of his international network of spies, 'sleepers,' and 'embedded' agents. He will probably take some of the chem/bio weapons of mass destruction with him. And, most of all, he will be fomenting trouble in the 'new' Iraq - trying to destabilize the new government and return to power.

    Let us remember the 1979 scenes of the Ayatollah Khomeini - living in a tent on the outskirts of Paris - leading the Iranian revolution thousands of miles away.

    Saddam, while not the same type of religious leader, is being elevated in Muslin/Arab eyes as a 'hero' for confronting the Great Satan - and for surviving longer than expected. He is the Muslim ROCKY - who did not win but was lionized for lasting longer than anyone ever could have imagined.

    US intelligence has also picked up talk of a last minute Saddam ploy: threaten the mass death of 30,000 civilians and US military in some last-ditch use of WMD unless Saddam is allowed to go into exile.

    Such a 'deal' would be difficult to turn down.

    On the other hand, we could accept the deal, save the 30,000 people, and then go kill Saddam anyway. A just reward for him!

    The point is this: we entered this war on the claim that Saddam was a threat to America. That threat was that Saddam might give his WMD to a terrorist group to use against us. Well, Saddam in exile is the very same threat - with an even great motive driven by bitterness over our invasion.

    No, the war's beginning should have meant no more possible deals for Saddam. He had his chance - and he blew it off.

    Now the goal of the coalition is simple: hunt down Saddam and his two sons and kill them.

    Until that is accomplished, those malignant cancer cells will be spreading their deadly disease wherever they travel.

    Let's us not allow Saddam to be another Osama bin Laden: on the run, causing trouble and seen among millions of Muslims as a 'hero' for defying the United States.
    www.etherzone.com/2003/lebo040103.shtml

    An interesting view. But he still may be in Baghdad.
  5. by   jnette
    hmm..mmmmmmmm...

    Now why would that not surprise me?
  6. by   wv_nurse 2003
    Originally posted by mkue
    Would he really flee his country and let his people carry on the fight? Call for a Holy War and then not stay and fight?

    Or would he want to stay until the very end supporting those who are fighting for him?

    Is he planning on using chemical warfare and wants to get the heck out of Dodge?

    My vote is he high tailed it out (if he is still alive)--he is a coward through and through--who will gladly sacrifice "his" people.
    "stay until the very end supporting those who are fighting for him"??--I say not a chance in...well you know where!
  7. by   Sable's mom
    QUOTE:
    Originally posted by mkue
    Would he really flee his country and let his people carry on the fight? Call for a Holy War and then not stay and fight?

    Or would he want to stay until the very end supporting those who are fighting for him?

    Is he planning on using chemical warfare and wants to get the heck out of Dodge?

    He sure the heck would!! He has tortured and killed 'his' own people for years - the only one he cares about is himself.
  8. by   Mkue
    Next stop Syria for exiled Saddam

    "He knows it is only a matter of time before he is defeated and he has made sure that everything is in place for a very comfortable exile," Mr Wihaib said.

    If his escape route is cut, Saddam wants his most trusted bodyguards to kill him.

    "Saddam will never be captured alive," Mr Wihaib added.

    Mr Wihaib also revealed that Saudi diplomats acting as middlemen told the US that Saddam would leave Iraq - if Qusay was allowed to take over. President George W. Bush flatly rejected the deal.

    entire article: http://www.dailytelegraph.news.com.a...0,5936,6196905^25440,00.html

  9. by   Mkue
    I have a feeling he won't be allowed a "comfortable exile". Wondering if Syrian stories are to throw the coalition off, stories get weirder
  10. by   Mkue
    News of the Weird

    Saddam appears on Iraqi TV (or was it a double?) unannounced. But he doesn't show up for an announced speech.. weird.

    Iraqi Information Minister reported today that Coalition forces are no where near Baghdad. whatever.

    The Minister also reported that US forces did not take over Saddam International Airport. We are not there according to his report. Someone had better tell our 1500 plus troops that are sitting on the airport. Not to mention their huge tanks they brought along.

    It's a Mirage
  11. by   pickledpepperRN
  12. by   Mkue
    It is weird.

    He has someone else read his speech today, then he is seen on tape supposedly in the streets of Baghdad.

    If he is really alive why didn't he read his own speech.

    When clips are shown of him he is sitting around a table laughing with his officers.

    His people are being killed and he's laughing, that irks me. I believe those are old clips
  13. by   wv_nurse 2003
    I find it hard to believe that he would really be in any street--let alone one in a hot military zone. My vote for the street mob scene is that it was one of his many body doubles.

    And I agree Mkue--I think the clips are old, or pre-recorded.
  14. by   natsfanrn
    It's 100 degrees in Bahgdad today, and Saddam's walking amongst people wearing long sleeves and jackets. Hmmmm....

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