What's so bad about chiropractors?

  1. Somone recently said,"don't get me started on chiropractors." Can I get you started, please. I went to one as a kid, but I wouldn't have noticed any alternative "cure" literature or anything strange for that matter.

    My AP teacher was a DC who injured her wrist so she had to take some time off and she said that she had to seriously ponder if she wanted to have her kids immunized. I don't understand this at all, can someone please educate me.
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  3. by   mattsmom81
    There have been some studies that inferred the immunizations can cause more harm than good...and of course there are allergic reactions occasionally, but most MD's and DO's will assert they do much more GOOD than harm in the population. Sorry I can't quote the studys' names...another poster here may know.

    I think chiropractors do well for SOME people, but they can also do harm and make patients dependent on them for frequent adjustments.. My hubby has seen a chiropractor q week, sometimes more often, for 15 -20 years for mutilevel disk herniations that are inoperable, causing chronic pain. I was in a car wreck and had a whiplash injury with pain rad. to arm, and he took me to his chiropractor for treatment. When I didn't get better, and was concerned, the DC tried to dissuade me from seeing an MD for the problem, telling me there was nothing seriously wrong with me. Well, I'm now recovering from surgery to fuse my neck to relieve pressure on my spinal cord and heal my damaged nerves.......and my surgeon tells me the chiropractor may have done harm to me, although hard to prove.

    We now see a family practice osteopathic physician group...and they do their own brand of manipulative therapy, which is gentler than the bone cracking chiropractors. They believe it's important to work on the fascia and softer tissues vs just bone cracking.. My hubby only has to go to him once q 1-2 months and is feeling MUCH better with our new DO than with the DC.

    Just one story...but we learned the hard way. I recommend osteopathic physicians, who also have medical school training...where chiropractors do not.
  4. by   adrienurse
    There is nothing wrong with chiropractors per se. I just wave trouble with some of the causes they support. I don't like the idea of anybody telling parents not to immunize their kids because it is not "nature's way" (actual litterature in ex-chiropractor's office). I suppose we should let women die in childbirth, because this is natural selection. I realize that this is not a cause that all chiropractors support.
  5. by   Robin61970
    I would hae to say it depends on the particular chiropractor. I go to a wonderful chiro.......started going when I could barely get out of bed in the mornings and went for 2 months twice a week to straighten my pelvis out(apparently it was out of whack from pregnancy.....and yes i saw the xray of the problem) after that it was to my discretion. I had been having trouble with my sciatic joint for a year and had gotten to the point of having shots in the joint, but that pain was caused by the pelvic problem and it cleared up.....he also found a problem that the doctor did not find in my lower back and where I had been having migranes twice a week I now only get them aboutonce a month....every two weeks at the most. My chiropractor has referred me to my PCP if I asked him about a problem that he was not sure about so I guess I have one of the good ones......and I am sure there are more out there. My chiro does believe in herbal remedies and such, but he would NEVER tell me not to immunize my kids......
  6. by   kmchugh
    Oh, where to start?

    Understand, I am a CRNA, and as such, consider myself to be of a scientific bent. I believe that if we are to treat patients, we must do so scientifically, using the best treatments available, after they are exhaustively tested, in a SCIENTIFIC fashion. So, i will tell you to first put yourself in a scientific state of mind. Accept no claim without proof. That said, let me suggest a website:

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01Quackery...ics/chiro.html

    and another from Dr Barrett and the good folks at Quackwatch:

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01Quackery...irostroke.html

    There are things that chiropractic can do, but they cannot nearly achieve their claimed abilities.

    Essentially, if you find a good chiropractor (i.e. one who accepts his/her limitations, does not discourage you from seeking medical help) you will find a good massage therapist. But, the foundation of almost all chiropractic these days is the myth of the "subluxation."

    Any good trauma nurse on this board can tell you about subluxation. A subluxation is generally caused by a traumatic injury, causing displacement of the spinal column. In short, the one vertebra slides foward, while others stay in place. If you picture the spinal canal, you can see how this could compress, contuse, or even sever the spinal cord. The last thing you would ever want to do with a patient with a subluxation is any kind of manipulation. These patients are handled with kid gloves, in order to prevent causing or worsening serious injuries.

    Chiropractic tells us that subluxation is the cause of ALL disease, and this is what chiropractors claim to treat. Realignment of the spine can relieve the "subluxation" and eliminate the disease at it's source. The more extreme believers in this theory even claim to be able to cure hypertension, diabetes, and I've even read about one who thinks subluxation may underlie AIDS. Many of these folks are the ones who actively discourage their patients from seeking help from "allopathic" physicians, claiming that they are nothing but pill pushers.

    Unfortunately, in studies, apparently no two chiropractors can agree on what exactly a "subluxation" is. When given identical x-rays, different chiropractors identify different areas as "subluxed." Heck, they can't even agree on what constitutes "subluxation." The bottom line? Chiropractic theory, when examined scientifically is, to be polite, bunk.

    Now there are chiropractors who practice a technique called "cervical" manipulation. The practice is discussed on the second web page listed above. There are people who have been killed by chiropractors administering this "treatment." The manipulation can cause damage to the vertebral artery. The final result can be a fatal stroke.

    There are chiros who want to be the "family practice doc," performing annual exams, etc. Of course, they have no prescriptive authority, and as another poster has told you, have no compunction about discouraging you from seeking other treatment, while they continue to aggravate you injury with further manipulation.

    Hows that? Any more questions?

    Kevin McHugh, CRNA
    Last edit by kmchugh on Jul 28, '02
  7. by   LasVegasRN
    I totally agree with Kevin. When I saw this thread my first thought was to post a link to Dr. Barrett's site also.
  8. by   shay
    I've heard good and bad. I just want someone to make my achey back feel better............I think I'll stick to my massage therapist.
  9. by   sunnygirl272
    tee hee..i'm the"don't get me started" person who apparently got things started..lol..
    as i statedin my post (ithink..)on theimmunization thread...i think...i don't object to chiros who stick to massage,and simple gentle manip....but aids,diabetes,asthma,etcetcetc are not rooted in a messed up back....

    and thanks to kevin for posting the scientific stuff so i didn't hafta do a search...
  10. by   alwaysthere
    a person with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument..
    what im saying here is chiropractice (is that a word? oh, well it is now!) works for me. Its one of the main reasons im still able to work. It may be different for another person.
  11. by   Stargazer
    Had a bit of a beef w/chiropractors ever since one almost killed my grandmother with weekly manipulations without figuring out that she had SEVERE osteoporosis.....

    I'm with Shay; I think a good massage therapist is at least as effective and a great deal safer.
  12. by   Tookie
    went to a chiro for ages - decided l was dependent and not really improving - have their uses - however l get far more relief from a theraputic massage that l have when l feel the need - should go more often if l am honest to keep myself tuned up - so as to speak - often hurts like -H***- however l can walk strighter and feel far more comfortable when he has finished - also he is extremely respectful of my dignity- considering l am just in my knickers (with a towel) ------ Not a pretty sight. -

    Maybe thats why he is so respectful?? LOL

    Personally go for the massage not the chiro

    Mine has been traning for years and in numerous techniques - He

    He worked as a volunteer at the Sydeny games as a volunteer - just by the way
    Last edit by Tookie on Jul 29, '02
  13. by   Robin61970
    I believe some of you are lumping all Chiro's into a group and assuming all are bad......I'm sorry, but I cannot and will not agree on this one and cannot and will not keep my opinions to myself. Luckily I have to go to school now and will continue this post later tonight when I have had time to think it through.
  14. by   pkmom
    Interesting, I've been to that quakwatch site, but I was looking for Hulda Clark, not chiropractors. I guess I had a good chiropractor, I only went for a few months after a car wreck. Anyone who is anti-immunizations has some issues IMO. I didn't know there were DC's who believed they could cure everything. Interesting.

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