What if he's right???

  1. found this today..
    interesting view..scary.
    I promised I wouldn't make predictions about the start of the war, so perhaps I can make one about the end of it. When it's over and the dust has settled, the United States will stand supreme in the world, powerful but hated, its boot on the throat of Iraq. The international frameworks built over the last 50 years, including the United Nations, will lie in ruins or will be about to collapse. Resentful young men, hearts full of fear, hate and Allah will find refuge and a raison d'etre as explosive martyrs. The world will be less safe-for everyone. And thousands of people-soldiers, civilians, innocent or not-will be dead. And for no good reason at all.

    Posted by Christopher at March 13,

    http://www.back-to-iraq.com/archives/000281.php
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  3. by   VivaLasViejas
    This is exactly what most of us who opposed this war were afraid of, and nobody in power gave a damn WHAT the consequences might be. Sadly, Bush and his allies will continue to ignore the long-term issues created by this war until another 9/11 occurs (and there WILL be a next time, it's only a matter of when and where). And they'll probably even have the nerve to be surprised when the world doesn't come rushing to our aid.......
  4. by   Stargazer
    Yup. That's about as succinct and eloquent an explanation as I've seen yet summarizing one of my top 3 worst fears about this war.
  5. by   semstr
    My thoughts and fears exactly!
  6. by   emily_mom
    ITA
  7. by   Mkue
    It is thought provoking and I read the whole page. Christopher has no way of knowing what will happen, no one does. Just as analysts are wrong, predictions can be wrong also.

    Where is al-quaida? They threatened to attack if Iraq was attacked. Are they being squelched?
  8. by   natsfanrn
    Yes, I'm afraid too of what may happen after the war ends, but I'm more afraid of what might happen if we don't take Saddam out of power. A power-hungry madman who has been able to fine-tune his weapons of mass destruction well enough so that he has the power to take out his neighbors and possibly spread biological and chemical agents throughout the world. And to sit on our hands and watch while this happens just because we're afraid of what the repercusions may be is cowardly and will ultimately lead to many, many more, and worse, 9/11s. Let's face it, nobody wants war, everybody fears war, but sometimes it may be the lesser of two evils...
    Last edit by kardut on Mar 28, '03
  9. by   wv_nurse 2003
    Originally posted by kardut
    Yes, I'm afraid too of what may happen after the war ends, but I'm more afraid of what might happen if we don't take Saddam out of power. A power-hungry madman who has been able to fine-tune his weapons of mass destruction well enough so that he has the power to take out his neighbors and possibly spread biological and chemical agents throughout the world. Let's face it, nobody wants war, everybody fears war, but sometimes it may be the lesser of two evils...
    Well said, and I think we would all go absolutely insane if we spent 24/7 doing the "what if" thing---to stand back and do nothing says that we believe an Iraqi life is worth less than an American life--and that is wrong. IMHO
  10. by   DebsZoo
    Originally posted by mkue
    It is thought provoking and I read the whole page. Christopher has no way of knowing what will happen, no one does. Just as analysts are wrong, predictions can be wrong also.

    Where is al-quaida? They threatened to attack if Iraq was attacked. Are they being squelched?
    I will try to find the article about an al-quaida group, smack in the heart of Iraq, training some Iraqis in the use of arms.
    Just heard it this morning on the news. If I find an actual article, I will post a link



    Also, as far as civilian casualties, Iraqis are being shot in the back by their own forces, as they try to leave Basra <sp>
    They are being fired upon to make them return to the city..........I can just imagine what fate they face, for those that Do turn around and return to the city
    Last edit by DebsZoo on Mar 28, '03
  11. by   hoolahan
    This is what I think everyone who opposes the war is afraid of, including the fact that no one does know what the long-term consequences will be.

    I see children coming to American and British soldiers for water. Will they grow up and remember us as the good guys, or the ones who bombed and destroyed their country? What about the children from the Gulf War, are they the ones who are thrilled to dress up as civillians and American soldiers and confuse our troops now??

    I am far from a historian, but I thought we studied history to teach us lessons, b/c "history repeats itself."

    My fear is that this will become another Viet Nam. Yes we have way more sophisticated weapons now, so theorectically, we should be able to "get in and get out."

    But the truth is no one really knows what will happen. It is scary to consider what the long-term consequences will be. That has been my issue with this war from the start.

    I watched part of a meeting of UN people on the news yesterday. The Iraqi embassador was criticizing the US...again...and the American embassador walked out of the meeting. I do see this as the beginningof the disintegration of the UN.
  12. by   DebsZoo
    PoWs: 'Al-Qaeda fighters in Iraq'

    Here is a link to the story I referred to above
  13. by   Mkue
    CAPTURED Iraqi soldiers have told British interrogators that al-Qaeda terrorists are fighting on the side of Saddam Hussein's forces against allied troops near Basra.

    At least a dozen members of Osama bin Laden's network are in the town of Az Zubayr, where they are co-ordinating grenade and gun attacks on coalition positions, according to the Iraqi prisoners of war.

    It was believed that last night, British forces were preparing a military strike on the base where the al-Qaeda unit was understood to be holed up.

    A senior British military source inside Iraq said last night: "The information we have received from PoWs today is that an al-Qaeda cell may be operating in Az Zubayr. There are possibly around a dozen of them and that is obviously a matter of concern to us."

    If terrorists are found, it would be the first proof of a direct link between Saddam's regime and Osama bin Laden, the mastermind behind the 11 September attacks on New York and Washington.
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    From Deb's article, very interesting.
  14. by   Brownms46
    Originally posted by mjlrn97
    This is exactly what most of us who opposed this war were afraid of, and nobody in power gave a damn WHAT the consequences might be. Sadly, Bush and his allies will continue to ignore the long-term issues created by this war until another 9/11 occurs (and there WILL be a next time, it's only a matter of when and where). And they'll probably even have the nerve to be surprised when the world doesn't come rushing to our aid.......
    Excellent post!! And if we were so worrried about a country that has WMD, why haven't we go after N. Korea?? This country was supposed to have pulled out of S. Korea wayyy back in the every 80's...but we are still there! N. Koreans soldiers came over the DMZ and killed two of our officers, while they were on a work detail. They were up there cutting down trees on the DMZ with Korea naitonals, and were beheaded! And we did nothing but go up there and cut down a few trees! . They shot down our helicopter, and captured men from the 5th Signal, 2nd Inf Division, and then dictated to us, when and how we would get them back!

    Why didn't we attack them then??

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