What exactly would he do now?

  1. (CNSNews.com) - For the second time in two days, Sen. John F. Kerry on Wednesday seemed unable to answer a question about what he would do if he were president.

    Kerry this week has blasted the Bush administration for its "failures" in Iraq. On Wednesday, in an interview with American Urban Radio Networks, Kerry called the administration's actions in Iraq "one of the greatest failures of diplomacy and failures of judgment that I have seen in all the time that I've been in public life."

    But later, in an interview on CNN, Kerry was asked what he would do differently if he were president.

    According to a CNN transcript, anchor Judy Woodruff asked Kerry, "What exactly -- right now -- would you do differently?"

    Kerry: "Right now, what I would do differently is, I mean, look, I'm not the president, and I didn't create this mess so I don't want to acknowledge a mistake that I haven't made. The president needs to step up and acknowledge that there are difficulties and that the world needs to be involved and they need to reverse their policy that countries that were not involved in supporting us are not going to be part of the reconstruction."

    After Kerry finished saying what the Bush administration should have done, Woodruff tried again:

    Woodruff: "Senator, you said it was a mistake, not your mistake, but you called it a mistake and also said you wouldn't cut and run. You've acknowledged there may need to be more troops. If there were a President Kerry, he might have to send in more troops. I want to ask you the question you asked during the Vietnam War. How do you ask a man...to be the last to die for a mistake?"

    Kerry: "Well, the mistake that I'm talking about, Judy, is not the effort to fight and have -- not the effort to have a stable Iraq. The mistake is in the way that they are going about it. So I would change the way you're going about it. I mean again and again I have said, I laid out with great specificity months ago, the steps that they should have taken, and I believe that those people who have been in touch with people in the international community know there is a different and better way to put together an effort that could legitimize a government in Iraq. If we insist on doing this through our provisional government authority, if we insist on being totally in control the way we are today, we're going to having an impossible time legitimately bringing people to the table."

    Woodruff, at that point, changed the subject.

    Earlier this week, in an interview with National Public Radio's Bob Edwards, Sen. Kerry was asked about the Bush administration's decision to crack down on Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who has urged his followers to take up arms against U.S. troops.

    The U.S.-led coalition shut down Sadr's newspaper for saying Iraqis should kill "American pigs."

    NPR's Edwards asked Kerry, "President Bush says Sadr's defiance can't stand. What should the U.S. do?"

    Kerry: "Well, ah, it's interesting to hear that when they shut a newspaper that belongs to a legitimate voice in Iraq and, well -- let me, let me, let me change the term 'legitimate.' When they shut a newspaper that belongs a voice, because he has clearly taken on a far more radical tone in recent days and aligned himself with both Hamas and Hezbollah, which is a sort of terrorist alignment. So he has his own set of needs in order to deal with the possible, you know, future spread of terrorism."

    Kerry's political opponents blasted him for that particular response, not just because he struggled to answer the question -- but also because he started off by saying that Sadr's newspaper was "legitimate" and then qualified Hamas and Hezbollah as "sort of" a terrorist alignment.
    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.as...20040408a.html

    Kerry was asked recently what he would do differently in Iraq right now if he were President. He said "that those people who have been in touch with people in the international community know there is a different and better way to put together an effort that could legitimize a government in Iraq".

    Who is Kerry referring to when he says "those who have been in touch". I'm not satisfied with this answer, can anyone explain it to me? Is he referring to France, Germany, Russia? Is he referring to Democrats who are in touch with the international community? Why doesn't HE know what he would do if he were President? Is he relying on those who are in touch with the International Community? Is this a good idea to rely soly on what others say?

    Why does he state Hamas and Hezbollah as "sort of" a terrorist alignment.

    Open for discussion.
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  2. 36 Comments

  3. by   Spidey's mom
    Well, in reading everyone's disappointment with President Bush's Press Conference a couple of nights ago, I kept thinking "John Kerry isn't exactly Mr. Wonderful when it comes to speeches". As you can see by the above.

    I've never really thought that a good speaker is necessarily someone I want to vote for. Like Jnette said in the "Retrosexual" thread . . . guys with manners can be jerks too.

    Charismatic speakers can be scary . . . .

    I'll cut both candidates some slack in the speech department and look at their agendas.

    steph
  4. by   sbic56
    I don't expect anyone to be able to come up with a great plan concerning this mess in Iraq. There is no great plan. I do know that keeping this current joke in office another 4 years is not a good plan. It will take years to regain what we have lost at the hands of this president. I don't see how anyone could have a quick plan to reverse the damage he has done. He has screwed everything up from day one. Why allow him to do anymore harm? We are talking about survival of this great nation as we knew it. It takes a very brave person to even consider being the president to follow Bush. I wish Kerry all the strength possible. He's going to need it.
  5. by   jnette
    Quote from stevielynn
    I've never really thought that a good speaker is necessarily someone I want to vote for. Charismatic speakers can be scary . . . .

    I'll cut both candidates some slack in the speech department and look at their agendas.

    steph
    Steph, I agree it's not the "speech" itself, but the lack of intelligence !

    I know a lot of people who just are not great orators, but you know there is intelligence behind their words. IMO , Bush has NEITHER. That's why his speeches irritate me so much... :stone
  6. by   Mkue
    The CNN interview in my mind gave Kerry the opportunity to state exactly what he would do if he were President. Since there is a lot of criticism of the War in Iraq this would be the perfect time for Kerry to state what he would do better. He stated that he was not the President so it was hard for him to say what he would do, instead he would rely on the international community.

    This was Kerry's chance to possibly garner more votes his way but instead I'm left with unanswered questions and the same complaining of the current administration.

    I know that Bill Clinton while in office stated that Iraq would not be at peace unless they had a different government but there was no plan of action to produce a different plan of government in Iraq at that time.

    Does anyone know who Kerry is referring to? Who are these people he will rely on for international guidance? It concerns me that someone who seeks the highest office in our country criticises a plan but can't explain what he thinks will work and most importantly why it would work.
  7. by   Elenaster
    Quote from mkue
    The CNN interview in my mind gave Kerry the opportunity to state exactly what he would do if he were President. Since there is a lot of criticism of the War in Iraq this would be the perfect time for Kerry to state what he would do better. He stated that he was not the President so it was hard for him to say what he would do, instead he would rely on the international community.

    This was Kerry's chance to possibly garner more votes his way but instead I'm left with unanswered questions and the same complaining of the current administration.

    I know that Bill Clinton while in office stated that Iraq would not be at peace unless they had a different government but there was no plan of action to produce a different plan of government in Iraq at that time.

    Does anyone know who Kerry is referring to? Who are these people he will rely on for international guidance? It concerns me that someone who seeks the highest office in our country criticises a plan but can't explain what he thinks will work and most importantly why it would work.
    Did you actually read the CNN transcript, mkue? I couldn't find it and your skewed right-wing website provides no link. The only transcript I could find on CNN.com involving an interview between Kerry and Woodruff was primarily about his difference in views with John Edwards from back in February.

    I think this is just another pathetic attempt from the right to try and paint Kerry as "weak on terrorism" as the Bush campaign continues to claim.

    How can we possibly know who Kerry was referring to if we can't even read his words for ourselves. I feel that the link you provided is far from objective and what he said was taken out of context.

    I did, however watch Bush's press conference the other night and it was painfully obvious to me that he has no clear plan in Iraq either, despite the fact that he's the one that got us into this mess in the first place. I'm certainly not buying the "re-elect me and I'll fix everything" line that he's selling.
  8. by   maureeno
    the UN envoy
    who shaped the interm government in Afghanistan
    has just left Iraq with a plan
    accepted by Bush:

    the governing Council would be disbanded
    [not increased as the US planned]

    the UN would appoint a caretaker government

    Bush knows his policy is in failure
    [he cannot admit mistakes because polling and focus groups indicate that
    would cause trouble with his political base of true believers]
  9. by   Mkue
    Quote from Elenaster
    Did you actually read the CNN transcript, mkue? I couldn't find it and your skewed right-wing website provides no link. The only transcript I could find on CNN.com involving an interview between Kerry and Woodruff was primarily about his difference in views with John Edwards from back in February.

    I think this is just another pathetic attempt from the right to try and paint Kerry as "weak on terrorism" as the Bush campaign continues to claim.

    How can we possibly know who Kerry was referring to if we can't even read his words for ourselves. I feel that the link you provided is far from objective and what he said was taken out of context.

    I did, however watch Bush's press conference the other night and it was painfully obvious to me that he has no clear plan in Iraq either, despite the fact that he's the one that got us into this mess in the first place. I'm certainly not buying the "re-elect me and I'll fix everything" line that he's selling.
    The interview was done by CNN, Judy Woodruff, those are her questions. CNN is primarily a left wing network, they were giving Kerry a chance to talk about "his" plan. My questions were related to who he is referring to as the "international community". I didn't know that President's or candidates rely soley on what that community says. I was hoping someone could clear that up.
  10. by   Mkue
    Quote from maureeno
    the UN envoy
    who shaped the interm government in Afghanistan
    has just left Iraq with a plan
    accepted by Bush:

    the governing Council would be disbanded
    [not increased as the US planned]

    the UN would appoint a caretaker government

    Bush knows his policy is in failure
    [he cannot admit mistakes because polling and focus groups indicate that
    would cause trouble with his political base of true believers]
    Bush said he wanted a government in place by the end of June, and others wanted the UN in there.. Bush gets what he wants and his critics get what they want, the UN involved, and all within President Bush's timeframe.
  11. by   Elenaster
    Quote from mkue
    The interview was done by CNN, Judy Woodruff, those are her questions. CNN is primarily a left wing network, they were giving Kerry a chance to talk about "his" plan. My questions were related to who he is referring to as the "international community". I didn't know that President's or candidates rely soley on what that community says. I was hoping someone could clear that up.
    But you still didn't answer my question. Where is the actual transcript? In my opinion, a credible internet reporting agency would provide links to the source that they're quoting. The one you provided did not, and I would simply like to read the interview myself before making judgements based on an editorial from a blatantly skewed website.
  12. by   molecule
    mkue
    HOW MANY LIVES WOULD HAVE BEEN SPARED if Bush had let inspections continue within the UN framework? Or have adequately prepared for providing security during the occupation? Or asked for help earlier? No one is getting what they want and I believe all Bush wants now is a win in the election.

    I just listened to Bush and Blair... utopians who believe peace comes from war
  13. by   Mkue
    Quote from Elenaster
    But you still didn't answer my question. Where is the actual transcript? In my opinion, a credible internet reporting agency would provide links to the source that they're quoting. The one you provided did not, and I would simply like to read the interview myself before making judgements based on an editorial from a blatantly skewed website.
    The transcript is on CNN.com, the interview was April 7th.
  14. by   Mkue
    Quote from molecule
    mkue
    HOW MANY LIVES WOULD HAVE BEEN SPARED if Bush had let inspections continue within the UN framework? Or have adequately prepared for providing security during the occupation? Or asked for help earlier? No one is getting what they want and I believe all Bush wants now is a win in the election.

    I just listened to Bush and Blair... utopians who believe peace comes from war
    Actually MANY people are getting what they want. In case you didn't know our previous administration had also wanted Saddam out of power and they also felt that Iraq needed a new Government to have peace.. So Democrats and Republicans alike should be happy about this. Many people wanted the UN involved since Day One. I'm hoping that this new UN led interim Iraqi Govt will go smoothly. As President Bush has stated will take place June 30th. This is wonderful news and GREAT news for President Bush and Tony Blair. Excuse me for being happy but I think this is a great day for Bush, Blair and the Iraqi people.

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