what do you do to stayy safe?

  1. What type safety precautions against assault, robbery, kidnapping and rape do you oobserve? l was hoping we could share some safety tips and experiences with each other.

    As the Christmas shopping season tilts to full swing, l start thinking even more about safety and personal protection while out and about in the crowds. Last year, my best friends dgtr was assaulted in the parking lot at Meijer's while christmas shopping. It was only 9pm, she was close to the enterance, a lot of ppl out shopping and security cameras were on in the store. Some jerk shoved her down and tried to take her purse. the strap was caught in his car as he tried to drive away and her arm was hung in it as he drug her around the parking lot...lacerated her liver, broke ribs, she was in ICU for a while but fully recovered.

    l also remember a pt's dgter telling me about her almost getting abducted from a Kroger parking lot. She said it was dusk and she was walking to her car, her purse on her shoulder, when a van pulled beside her and a guy jumped out and twisted her purse strap tightly around her arm and tried to pull her into his van...she got away!...whew...she was screaming, and ppl were watching and no one came to her assistance.

    Neither of these incidents occured in a "bad" neighborhood, there were witnesses or potential witnesses, did not occur late at night and both women were grown, (2nd in her 60's), and intelligent professional..etc.

    What kind of precautions do you take?...or do you think about this at all....l know when l park at work l try to get close to a light, and l try to always be aware of my surroundings...l try to never park next to a van either....l need to get some pepper spray though.........

    So what do you think?.............................LR
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  2. 24 Comments

  3. by   Hidi74
    I carry pepper spray on my key chain. It is in my hand and ready at all times. I always have my keys in my hand before I walk out of any building. I also always try to have someone with me!! :-)
  4. by   baseline
    I take the heads up, walk like I mean business don't look like a victim approach. I carry my car key out and like a weapon.
  5. by   CountrifiedRN
    Years ago I had a friend who was walking from one store to another in a strip mall in the middle of the day. She was carrying her purse over her shoulder and neck, and some guy came running past her and grabbed her purse. She was dragged along with him and out of reflex reached out and grabbed a sign post. The guy stopped short with her when she grabbed the post and his feet flew up in the air and he fell, then got up and ran off. He didn't get her purse, but she was left with whiplash and a terrible bruise around half of her neck. It all happened so fast, no one even got a good look at him.

    When I go shopping I try to only bring the necessities and carry any cash and credit cards in my pocket. If someone wants my purse, they can have it (unless I happen to be carrying my favorite nine west purse, then they're in for a fight!)

    I also try to park under a street lamp at night, and as I walk up to my car I am looking around at cars parked near me, I look under my car, and inside the car before I get in.

    Another incident that gives me chills to think about happened last year in Greenville, NC. A Virginia couple and their baby were driving through on their way home from vacation and stopped at a store to pick up something. The husband, who had been driving, left his wife and child in the car and left it running while he ran in. When he came out they were gone. A man had carjacked the wife and baby, drove to an ATM and had the woman take money out, then drove her to a field in an unpopulated area where he hit her in the head with a tire iron, killing her, and left the baby out there in the field, in the heat. When they were finally found, the baby had 2nd degree sunburn and was dehydrated, but he survived. It's hard to imagine why and how anyone could do such a thing. I had just moved from Greenville about a month before that happened and it scared the heck out of me to think how many times I stopped at that same store with my husband and one of us sat in the car with the kids while the other ran in to pick up something. My teenagers always want to wait in the car if I have to stop at a store, and now I say no way! If I go, so do they.
  6. by   RN always
    I carry a gun! Ha! just kidding but I might start one of the days!
  7. by   emily_mom
    I try to not carry a purse while shopping. I also carry pepper spray (looking around for the cops b/c it is illegal in WI). It can happen anywhere at any time, so I try to be very observant of the surroundings around me. If someone is behind me I always look to see who they are. Sometimes being attentive is the best prevention. If you look like you mean business, they prob won't bother you.

    Kristy (one semester shy of police science degree, state certified jailer) <-- I know, I'm the Heinz 57 of education degrees!
  8. by   JonRN
    I try to look big and menacing, so far it has worked great since I AM big and menacing looking. But I am scared to death of guns, if ever threatened with a gun I would do whatever it took to stay alive if I could. I have seen the end result of people shot with guns too many times not to be very very afraid of them.
  9. by   l.rae
    Pepper spray illeagal?..gee. Pepper spray might make a good stocking stuffer...mental note.....anyway, these stories scare the crap out of me....thanks for sharing...with all the news today about abductions from parking lots, it pays to have a healthy dose of fear. ppl abducted in broad daylight and never heard from again. The woman abducted in Conway SC....have they ever found her?...l haven't heard...........LR
  10. by   bagladyrn
    I'm not very good at staying safe, but am lucky. I guess my defense is attitude. The last time 2 young guys tried to snatch my purse, I chased them down the street - they didn't get my purse - just made me mad. I've backed down belligerent drunks and challenged the driver who chased me into a gas station to "go ahead and try it - takes a lot of b**** to hit a middle aged woman". For some strange reason, when I lose my temper,people back off, which makes no sense, since I'm middle aged and 5'3". I think maybe they assume they must have run into a crazy woman!
    So when you all read in the paper about the "nurse going psycho", you'll know who it is.
  11. by   l.rae
    Jon, what do you think about carrying a "fake gun"? some of those toys look real...this has crossed my mind before......LR
  12. by   Zohar
    What happens if the knife-wielding assailant you pull the fake gun on pulls out his gun? Just a thought.

    They still haven't found the woman abducted in Conway, but they have captured her two kidnappers. I live about 50 minutes from Conway, and go through it to get to MYB rather often. Scares the crap out of me, but I don't go anywhere without at least one firearm. Even though I'm 6'6", and 240lbs, I usually carry one on my person, and one in the glovebox. I am very comfortable around them (not so comfortable that I ignore safety, though), I know when to shoot, I can hit very well, and I'm legally licensed to carry them.

    That being said, I definitely don't recommend this to everybody. If you have had training in firearms safety, and the laws of your state regarding when you can legally defend yourself, and you feel comfortable carrying one, then by all means do so. However, if guns scare you, or you're not sure of your capabilities, don't think of carrying one. Buy some pepper spray, or a tazer gun, or something that you feel comfortable with. There's an extremely large personal defense industry out there that would be happy to help you out.

    About two years ago, my aunt was accosted by a man with a gun in the mall parking lot. Before he even got her money, he hit her in the eye with the gun, knocking it out, and crushing her occular socket. She kicked him in the gonads, and drove herself to the ED. I've never let my sisters or wife go anywhere alone since.
    Last edit by Zohar on Nov 28, '02
  13. by   deespoohbear
    I try to look like I have a positive, don't mess with me attitude. Keep my head up, and be aware of my surroundings all the time. I carry my keys in my hand and am prepared to use them as a weapon if needed. I read somewhere that if someone attacks you and you have your keys in your hand that you should go for the eyes. And make it count!! When I was in college and had a night class, I didn't hesitate to have security escort me to my car. Take advantage of all the security measures available to you.
  14. by   Dplear
    Lets see....how to stay safe.....I personally let Mr. Browning Hi-Power 9 mm or on occasion Mr. Rossi .38 cal keep me safe. A fake gun will get you killed. You only pull a gun if you intend to use it and do not use it to wound...use it to kill. 2 to the body 1 to the head...perfect triple tap.

    Dave

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