What about John Walker???

  1. I am interested to know how all of you feel about John Walker, the American captured as he was fighting to defend the Taliban? What do you think his fate should be? Personally, I would like to see him on trial for treason. No one put a gun to his head, told him he had to leave the United States, told him he had to join the Taliban, nor did he have to take up arms against us. He did all of this of his own choice. Now all of a sudden, since his actions placed him in a situation he doesn't like, he screams, "I'm an American." Has he acted like an American? I don't think so. What I see is a screwed up young man that made bad choices and is now falling back on the rights he had when he chose to leave this country. If being in the US wasn't good enough for him before, why does he feel we should honor his American status now? I think he lost his rights when he fired that first shot against us. I'm certain many of you will not agree with me here but it makes me very angry that he lived in the best country in the world, chose of his own free will to leave it, then he fought against us, and now because he was born here, we're supposed to say, "Hey, no problem, he's just a confused kid." I can't blame his Mom and Dad for trying anything to save their son but they need to face reality. He chose to go, he acted the way he wanted to and now he should be man enough to suffer the outcome. I feel he is taking the cowards way out, just like Bin Laden. This is a man that repeatedly has proclaimed that his God is on his side. Well if that is the case, then why is he getting his butt kicked. Rather that suffer the fate of his actions, Bin Laden hides like a scared puppy, while hundreds die in his place. Brave man, what a role model to follow. He starts a war then leaves everyone else to fight it as he hides to save his rear. I am very saddened that both of these men chose the paths in life that they did. I pray in the end that they find true forgiveness from the Almighty, BUT in this life, they need to accept the role they have chosen and suffer the fate it deserves. I will pray for their souls but I will not shead any tears if they are executed for their crimes. Many children are missing a parent, many parents are missing a child, tears continue to be cried, all over the U.S. We will never be the same. All because someone thought it was their way or no way. I gladly accept it as a right of all people to believe as they choose, to live the lifestyle they choose, BUT I also have that right and they are trying to take mine away. So I say, let the chips fall where they may and if you're gonna mess with the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, then be prepared to pay for it!!!!
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  2. 121 Comments

  3. by   kewlnurse
    The maggot should die.
  4. by   fergus51
    I thought they should just do with him whatever they are going to do with the other Taliban troops they've captured, whatever that is.
  5. by   Q.
    I agree with Rudy when he said:

    "When you commit treason against the United States of America, particularly at a time when the US is in peril of attack and future attack, I believe the death penalty is the appropriate remedy to consider."


    Say no more.
  6. by   nurs4kids
    I agree he should die. BUT what is the legality? I don't think they can get him with treason d/t the situation of lack of declaration on a particular country. I dunno, either way, I think we should have shot him on site. Would have saved alot of taxpayers money.

    Bends over for the pacifists...
  7. by   Mkue
    He should be treated as the Taliban member that he appeared to be.

    Despite his youth, it would seem that he had the education to know that his actions would have consequences.

    What was he thinking?

    It's mind boggling that someone would intentionally be so un-american.

    Naturally his parents want to save his butt, but he must be held accountable.
  8. by   night owl
    He turned on our country. He was captured as a member of the Taliban, fighting for terrorism against mankind, then he SHOULD be held accountable for his ACTIONS. And as kewl said , "The maggot SHOULD die!" They should have shot the bast@rd right then and there. Knowing the US, they'll lock him up for life...What a waste of our hard earn tax dollar!!! In which case he oughta be made to wipe american butt in a veterans facility, preferably the one I work in... We could put a code alert band on him (hand sewn of course without any zilocaine) so he can't elope... We'll make him a 1:1 and stand over him with a whip and beat his a$$ saying, "wipe that sh*t you traitor b@stard!" I'll gladly take that assignment...Talk about terrorism...Sheeeesh! Heck, he'll want to die by the time we get through with him...
  9. by   rncountry
    First of all I think he is a good example of what happens when parents support "everything" that there child chooses to do, as if nothing is truly right or wrong, but simply the choose we all make. I can't imagine having my child go to Pakistan to study Islam and have me pay for it, particularly knowing the history of Pakistan. But Walker's dad did. This young man ran away from reality to a fantasy life as hard as he could. He had no boundaries from his family, never given anything that was absolutely wrong, and never anything that was absolutely right either. He graviated to something that gave him some very strict moral boundries. That all said, I think it is time that John Walker realized that his actions as a full fledged adult do have consequences. His choices and actions do mean something and there is truly right and wrong.
    He should be tried for treason, and when found guilty hanged by the neck until dead.
  10. by   Dplear
    John Walker forfieted his citizenship to the United States of America the day he took up arms in the military of a foriegn country. In the Constitution of the United States it clearly states that a person shall forfiet all rights and protections afforded US Citizens and shall have thier citizenship revoked.

    He is also not a citizen of Afghanistan, thus he is considered a stateless person. Let the UN have him and care for him but not here in my country. He has no protections under Our civil rights laws as he is no longer a US citizen. As far as I am concerned the Navy could dump him overboard and be within their rights. He is a mercenary and mercenaries are typicaly executed on capture.

    but then again I am a red meat eating war mongering troglodyte. Aleast accoriding to a few people here...

    Dave
  11. by   Mkue
    RNcountry,

    I do too agree that he should be made an example. A message needs to be sent to kids, young adults, anyone who participates in that type of behavior/actions, this is not acceptable.

    We cannot tolerate this in our society. No excuses.
  12. by   LilgirlRN
    Article III
    Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

    The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

    This is straight from the constitution... wasn't John Walker levying war against the United States? The Congress will pick his punishment. While California is known as one of the most liberal states in the Union, the citizens of California that I know personally, are madder than wet hens about this. I actually kinda feel sorry for his family, however had he been brought up as a forthright citizen of the United States, he could have never betrayed his country. He may have a screw loose, I can't imagine leaving a country where freedom is valued above all else and joing up with a group like the Taliban.... I am at a loss for explanation, John Walker will have his say I am sure, if someone doesn't kill him before he gets "home".
  13. by   VickyRN
    I'm not a bleeding heart liberal, by any means; quite the opposite. However, I am saddened by this whole situation. It is so incredibly sad. I grieve for this misguided young man and for his parents. What he did was very wrong. He is very deceived. I agree he should be punished (prison time), but killing him isn't really going to help. It'll just add to the body count. Try to have a little compassion, a little mercy. Except for the grace of God, this could be your child. How would you feel if this were your son?
  14. by   3651bht
    Well said, but maybe, futile..This group is a very angry, vengeful, and bitter group of people.. I just hope the people who have wronged them don't have access to this site because they would be dancing in the streets.. See the enemy knows that hatred, anger, and revenge hurts the very people they want to harm..They don't care about our feelings. They want all this bitterness to do it's damage on us.. But we need to rise above this and not let them destroy the rest of us.. We need to hold up our heads proudly and say You got some buildings, you got some planes, and you got many of our loved ones but you didn't get our love for, humankind, each other, our country, the world, and ourselves.. Anger, bitterness, and unresolved grief will not help this country to heal.. We need a little love... Listen to Alan Jackson's song about Sept 11th.." And the greatest of these is love." Try loving each other a little more and hating less and just see how calm, serene, and yes peaceful your life will be.. I know many of you feel I am living in a fantasy world but try it you might come to like it.. Obviously, you don't like the life you have now or you would not be so angry, vengeful, and bitter....



    May the sun shine brightly on you, in peace, and may the wind be always at your back or something like that....


    You see, in the final analysis,
    it is between you and God;
    It was never between you and them anyway..

    Mother Teresa..
    Last edit by 3651bht on Dec 23, '01

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