Warning/PayPal/check immediately - page 3

Anyone who uses PayPal, I wanted to warn anyone who has a PayPal account. This morning I discovered that more than $1600 had been transfered out of my bank account. The transfer amount was... Read More

  1. by   emily_mom
    Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Going to check paypal and credit card right now. Bank is closed so will do that in the morning....
  2. by   BMS4
    Wow, Peeps, I'm really sorry to hear about all this. Big {{{Hugs}}} and I hope it doesn't take that long to get your money back.
  3. by   RN2B2005
    ...please give us ALL of the details, Peeps.

    Posting a message that says "Warning/PayPal" and following that with an exhortation to check my PayPal account is more than just a little irresponsible; mass withdrawals from PayPal could cause financial problems for the corporation.

    I'd also be really, really careful about plastering someone's name up on a public bulletin board without being absolutely, positively certain that that person is actually the unauthorized person.

    I'd like to point out to everyone that in order to withdraw (transfer) funds out of Peeps' account, the alleged unauthorized person would need the following:

    --The e-mail address that Peeps registered with and
    --The security password Peeps uses

    It is NOT possible for a recipient to alter the amount of a transaction AFTER it has been received. So, either the unauthorized person figured out Peeps' e-mail AND her password, or Peeps inadvertently gave out that information, which happens more than you would think--ALWAYS check that you are logging onto a secure site (denoted by the "s" after the http).

    PayPal will NEVER send an e-mail to ask for your password; I've received more than one scam e-mail requesting that I click on an embedded link and provide my password. I've reported these instances to PayPal. In both cases, the link address didn't even remotely resemble the real PayPal address, but if you didn't actually look at the address you could be fooled. If someone has access to your e-mail address and your password, they have access to your account. It's not rocket science.

    Finally, Peeps, before freaking out, have you actually TALKED to anyone at PayPal? I have a PayPal Premier account and as an eBay seller have been involved in literally hundreds of transactions. I also have, in the past, sent documents to an actual physical address for them. PayPal does not take fraud lightly. I will provide both the address and phone if you PM me.

    In addition to contacting PayPal, you should notify your bank in writing of the unauthorized transaction and contact your local police to file a report.

    I'm sorry for your loss, but I have absolute faith in PayPal and their ability to resolve this. Don't unfairly malign them without giving us the details--were you and this woman involved in a transaction? Did you follow an e-mail link you thought was from PayPal? Do you use the same password for everything online? Help us out here.
  4. by   flowerchild
    I read about the pay pl scam last week on another BB. Sorry I didn't think to warn allnurses members. Some of the posters said that the hackers/thiefs were getting peoples member names and pins from sites that are not "locked" or secure. Many people apparently use the same identification name and passwords on all of their internet activity. The hacker just breaks into a non secure site, grabs the ID's and passwords, gets on Paypl and uses the name and pw to access the accounts. I personally do not know if this is true but it could happen. I use different names and passwords on all my accounts, so I feel some what safe. I have had my bank account robbed via bank card for over a grand. Some jerk in another country had somehow gotten hold of the card number, my name, and pins and purchased server space, ads, etc to set up xxx sites. I contacted the companies that made the charges and they reversed them immediatly in most cases. Got most of my money back pretty quick b/c it was reversed charges. The ones that I had to sign affidavits for took a month. None of the companies charged me anything but I was never a customer of theirs to begin with and had not agreed to anything.
    Maybe you can get them to reverse the charges??? If they do that you shouldn't need the affidavit and the credit to the account is shown in just a couple of days. Good Luck.
  5. by   Mkue
    Well I don't use Paypal, but thanks for the warning !
  6. by   EE2NP
    Peeps,
    If the person or persons that got into your account are actually able to block e-mails as you have indicated, then the odds are very high that they have hacked into your internet account or have been able to find some sort of electronic backdoor entry.

    Two pieces of advice. First, get yourself some good Firewall Software which is designed specifically to prevent and alert you to these clandestine attempts. Second, you should contact your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and alert them to your suspicion that you have been hacked. If you are able to confirm this I would suggest you contact your local police department and ask them to put you in touch with their e-crimes people, or point you in the direction of who to speak with. In most major districts throughout the US you can also find your local US Attorney. This should be reported as it's against the law and the Feds actively work these crimes. Good luck to you.

    Walt
  7. by   TheBrainMusher
    Paypal probably wasn't the problem kids. As RN2B2005 pointed out (and thank you!) Paypal doesn't give out information. Its part of the ebay system now and I've used paypal for well over 2 years now with NO PROBLEMS! I have a very secure server and internet connection and I do not share my internet connection or passwords with others! (THANKS TO MY TEKKIE DAD WHO HAS A FIREWALL UP!) People can actually "HACK" into your computer system and see your passwords and all that info if you are not on a SECURED web page (in IE and Netscape I believe its a lock symbol in yellow or something of the sorts). If you put sensitive info in, like your bank account # or SS#, then start surfing the web using that web page, people CAN access your history. Its a strange thing this internet. Whenever you access your credit cards, bank statement, make a purchase, etc ... make sure you CLOSE THAT web browser (to clear your cache!) and open a new one. Just a tip. You will see that tip on most credit card sites. Fraud happens unfortunately and people know how to manipulate the system. I don't know all but I have an idea of how things work and I'm cautious!
  8. by   w8liftinglady
    Originally posted by emily_mom
    OK, so you had money in your paypal account? I have a credit card and debiting from check book listed on paypal, but no actual money with them. Am I safe?

    Kristy
    Nope-I had the same thing happen to me-to the tune of about 1400.00...via my debit card.Fortunately,my bank made it good in about a week,but it still left me in a tight spot for that time.I closed my Paypal account.My password had been changed,so I couldn't even access my own account.I had not made any transactions for the past month.I've left it up to my bank to handle now...
    Last edit by w8liftinglady on Feb 19, '03
  9. by   PsychoRN
    I have used Pay Pal for 2 years without any problem. I use them to pay all of my bills and for eBay purchases. But just last week I received an email with the Pay Pal logo on it that wanted me to enter my user name and passwork to verify that Pay Pal had the correct name and password in their records. Of course I didn't respond and later noticed that the address the email was sent from didn't appear to be a Pay Pal address.
  10. by   sjoe
    To save time for any of you who wish to close your paypal account (it took me about 20 minutes to figure out): log in, go to "profile" and select "close account." Wade through a couple more screens selecting "continue" and "close account" to finish the job.
  11. by   l.rae
    l don't have pay pal but a couple of yrs ago we had our debit hacked for about 800+ dollars.....ordered something off of a non secured site l guess....never did figure it out....but tons of software was ordered under our name....we didn't even have a computer....had webtv at the time......Peeps, good luck, we got our money back, you will too.....minus 49$....
  12. by   sanakruz
    Son of a biscuit!!
    Thanks for the tips and good luck to you!
  13. by   geekymomma
    This is not the first time I've heard of this happening. I just closed my account with them. I'm not going to take any chances. I will use money orders from now on. Thanks for the warning.

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