War on Christmas!

  1. This has been highly publicized in the news lately and I was curious what your thoughts are.

    The White House is lighting the National Christmas Tree today. At one point, the name of the tree was changed from a Christmas tree to a Holiday tree. Now the name has been changed back to the Christmas Tree and seems to be creating an uproar.

    What do you think it should be called and why?
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  3. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Christmas Tree. You can only be so PC about this.
  4. by   Lisa CCU RN
    All I have to say is the world is coming to an end if we can't even call a Christmas tree by it's name.:angryfire
  5. by   CseMgr1
    Don't even get me STARTED on this one!
  6. by   nurse4theplanet
    I agree with calling it a Christmas tree. It's not because I want to offend anyone, but that is the original reason the tradition was started. Decorating a tree with lights and such is a specific Christian tradition and changing the name to the holiday tree doesn't change that. So to me it seems like such a trivial thing to debate or protest against.
  7. by   SmilingBluEyes
    It should be called a Christmas tree. They are not celebrating Chanukah, Ramadan, or Kwanzaa, in having a Christmas tree. It's symbolic of THAT holiday (and no other), and therefore, it is correct to call it a CHRISTMAS tree. Sheesh, I agree; calling it a holiday tree is beyond being PC; it's just silly.
  8. by   smk1
    i don't celebrate christmas. That said, the fact that i and others don't celebrate christmas doesn't change the fact that chrsitmas exists and that part of that tradition is to go get a tree and decorate it and call it a christmas tree. Judaism lights a menorrah (sp) should we change that name to the holiday or festive candles? i agree with being PC to a point, but things ARE what they ARE. It is and always will be a christmas tree. Christmas is a national, legally recognized holiday in this country, unless the government is willing to erase all religious holidays from our calenders as legal holidays recognized by the government, then this makes absolutely no sense. The president is Chrsitian (lord knows he makes sure we all know that), and he and his family celebrate christmas. therefore, it makes sense to have a christmas tree at his home (the white house). Now what will be interesting is if we ever get a jewish president, to see if he celebrates the religious holidays with the same fanfare as the past christian presidents have. (national menorrah lighting etc..), or will he feel pressure to violate his religious principles in his own home for a national chrsitmas tree lighting....
  9. by   Roy Fokker
    I didn't really have a problem with "Season's Greetings" or "Happy Holidays".

    Or even with if I say "Merry Christmas" you answer back with "Happy Kwanzaa" for example.

    I do, however, think it's ridiculous to call it "Holiday Tree".

    Somethings are just dumb no matter what spin you put on it.
  10. by   nurse4theplanet
    Quote from SMK1
    i don't celebrate christmas. That said, the fact that i and others don't celebrate christmas doesn't change the fact that chrsitmas exists and that part of that tradition is to go get a tree and decorate it and call it a christmas tree. Judaism lights a menorrah (sp) should we change that name to the holiday or festive candles? i agree with being PC to a point, but things ARE what they ARE. It is and always will be a christmas tree. Christmas is a national, legally recognized holiday in this country, unless the government is willing to erase all religious holidays from our calenders as legal holidays recognized by the government, then this makes absolutely no sense. The president is Chrsitian (lord knows he makes sure we all know that), and he and his family celebrate christmas. therefore, it makes sense to have a christmas tree at his home (the white house). Now what will be interesting is if we ever get a jewish president, to see if he celebrates the religious holidays with the same fanfare as the past christian presidents have. (national menorrah lighting etc..), or will he feel pressure to violate his religious principles in his own home for a national chrsitmas tree lighting....
    I couldn't have said that any better myself. I may not celebrate Hanukkha but I have no problem with Jewish culture celebrating their holiday in the public. If we did have a jewish pres and they chose to have a national Menorah lighting ceremony I may not watch, but I wouldn't demand they call it anything other than what it was because I RESPECT other religions. Why can't we all get along????

    it's one thing to fight against religious oppression, but it is another to trivialize others traditions because they are "offensive to you and oppressive to your alternate beliefs" as one woman on the news claimed. She is freely able to practice her religion whether there is a christmas tree or a freakin christmas mountain on the front lawn of the whitehouse!!!
  11. by   ZASHAGALKA
    I always consider such things a back handed compliment. If Christianity wasn't such a majority, those that backlash at it couldn't get away with it.

    They get away with it because they know that you don't have to be PC when it comes to attacking a majority.

    It just goes to show how much those that attack Christianity respect its dominance in our culture. They respect it enough not to have any compunction about going no holds barred against it.

    That being said, all those dept stores afraid to say 'Christmas' should reconsider why it is they use Dec to put them 'in the black' for the year.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  12. by   SmilingBluEyes
    For those interested, a history on the Christmas tree tradition:

    http://www.christmasarchives.com/trees.html
  13. by   rn/writer
    Quote from asoldierswife05
    This has been highly publicized in the news lately and I was curious what your thoughts are.

    The White House is lighting the National Christmas Tree today. At one point, the name of the tree was changed from a Christmas tree to a Holiday tree. Now the name has been changed back to the Christmas Tree and seems to be creating an uproar.

    What do you think it should be called and why?
    If the PC police have their way, we'll all be reduced to putting up Festivus poles a al Seinfeld.

    It has always amazed me that the PC zealots who lobby, sometimes obsessively, for fairness and tolerance, seem to restrict their open-mindedness to everyone except those in what is considered the mainstream. You can be a tree-worshipping, anti-gravity, nudist library paste eater with a bone through your nose and they'll stick up for you, but if you go to church, eat meat loaf, and haven't yet tattooed an obscene word on your forehead, you can suck turnips because you're obviously a judgmental bigot.

    With all the ingenuity in this country, you'd think we could find a way to make holidays more about inclusion than exclusion. Customs and traditions could go back to being fascinating and fun instead of invitations to feel insulted. We could give what we have without our motives being misjudged as smug or judgmental.

    We could, heaven forbid, partake in each other's traditions without becoming apostates or hypocrites. What irony, that in a season that's supposed to be holy and uplifting, there is so much energy spent on negativity and taking offense.

    Pleasant sensations of the season and may you be looked kindly upon by the deity of your choice excepting, of course, if you do not have a deity, in which case, my apologies for making crass assumptions, and may you experience whatever it is you wish to experience and feel about it however you might wish to feel.

    Is that inoffensive enough?
  14. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    I always consider such things a back handed compliment. If Christianity wasn't such a majority, those that backlash at it couldn't get away with it.

    They get away with it because they know that you don't have to be PC when it comes to attacking a majority.

    It just goes to show how much those that attack Christianity respect its dominance in our culture. They respect it enough not to have any compunction about going no holds barred against it.

    That being said, all those dept stores afraid to say 'Christmas' should reconsider why it is they use Dec to put them 'in the black' for the year.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Could it be all the "Christmas" presents?

    It is a Christmas Tree for goodness sakes. My dh is bringing one home tomorrow on his logging truck.

    steph

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