Vote for prn nurse's return....

  1. prn nurse was banned today from Allnurses due to her highly sensitive comments regarding race...making inappropriate comments in regards to race....especially the Black Race of people.

    Although I do NOT condone what she said, I am not the Judge in life......neither are any of you.

    If we are truly one big happy Allnurses family, one thing we need to remember is that we are not always going to receive love, or hear things pleasant to our taste at all times during our posting and reading of this fine website. :kiss

    When families have turmoil and strife.....can they run from one another for long, or do they eventually get over the drama, forgive one another, and move on? Are we only about living in a world that floats our boat, or are we stronger than the waves that rock that boat that we don't always care to be a traveler of?

    I vote to return prn nurse's membership here with permission for us to lovingly embrace her pain....and show her a better way to speak her thoughts without being abusive to others. I truly believe that she wants sooooooo much to feel like a part of us......we just didn't open her package and see in it what she was made of.......we decided that she wasn't worth our time........now isn't that the pot calling the kettle black, folks?

    Let he/she who has never sinned or said an evil word in his/her life cast the first stone. Otherwise, we have a former allnurses member who is now 'homeless' because we thought ourselves "too good" to be among her.

    I speak my mind.......you all know that about me by now. I do NOT love what evil comes from a person's mouth, but that gives me no right to cast them aside like garbage as if my **** has never stunk.......or yours.

    If you wish to vote prn nurse back into the Allnurses family.....post your vote here for Brian to see. Perhaps he will come to change his mind about prn nurse and any other person who comes here seeking to be accepted as she is, and not buried in her own hate because we think our love is beyond "her kind".

    In His Grip,
    Cheerfuldoer...AKA...Renee

    I see prn nurse in my quote below.........don't you? :kiss
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  3. by   Q.
    I am torn. I don't like everything prn nurse has to say, but I do appreciate her for what she has done for me. She was a friend to me.
  4. by   tiger
    i vote to let her come back. she will automatically be "checked" by those she offends. the differences in us all keep things interesting.
  5. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Like Susy, I'm torn. I can't say that I like or dislike her, because I don't know her. But I think it's a pretty heavy decision to decide someone's words, thoughts, and opinions no longer matter to an entire forum of 22,000 people, who could just as easily ignore her, as I do the people I do not like.

    And I'd also like to make it abundantly clear that publicly trashing her after she's gone and without opportunity to defend herself is immature and in extremely poor taste.

    Heather
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I do not think this is up for a vote. The decision has been made and she IS a repeat offender. I don't know how long Brian's banning policy stands, if it's not permanent. Perhaps after a time she could return? Meantime, those of you that are friends, support her all you can. If she is in the dire straits you say, she will need you now more than ever. But spitting venom at a public audience is no way to lance the boil of pain she suffers. I have suffered my share of loss and pain in the past 6 months, yet refuse to use that to excuse being rude and offensive to the general membership here. That said...

    I am not her friend and feel indifferent to her return. I agree that differences make us all interesting, that we don't have to all be "nicey nice" to to have stimulating conversation; and we can use the ignore feature when we choose. But I do have to ask: how much and how often is one person supposed to be allowed to do to offend so many? How bout those that come here new, unprepared to see this sort of thing? Is that a good thing for new folks to have to see their first or 2nd trip here????? Just a question.

    Anyhow Brian, how long do BANS continue? If there IS a vote, perhaps we can decide how long someone like that must be banned,not just to bring her right back....anyhow... Just curious. Brian?
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Oct 16, '02
  7. by   CATHYW
    Uh, Heather, who trashed prn nurse? I must have missed that one.

    I don't know prn nurse from Adam's housecat, but the posts she/he posted were very similar to Bobbi from Maine-that might have been slightly before your and Renee's time. She was vociferously antagonistic toward many folks. After she harrassed many people, even following them from thread to thread, she suddenly disappeared.

    If you will read my most recent post in the original thread that resulted in prn nurse being banned-by that name-on this board you will understand when I say, I am opposed to her/his reinstatement. Not as an unchristian, unfeeling person, but as one who respects the fact that rules are set up to be obeyed, not bent!

    This reminds me of the first test in my A&P class. We all had studied pretty hard for the test. Our instructor told us that if anyone was found to be cheating, they would be dismissed from the class. When we all came back into the classroom after the test was over, our instructor said that "Mr. So and So" had something to tell the class. Mr. So and So stood up and told us that he had been caught cheating and that he wanted to apologize to the class. That young man GOT A STANDING OVATION from almost all of the class! Then, one person wanted to start a campaign to get our instructor to allow Mr. So-and-So to stay in the class. The instructor said that rules were meant to be obeyed, and Mr. So-and-So gathered up his things and left the class. A mistake? You bet? An insult to the rest of us who had studied? Absolutely! Did it come as a shock to him? It should not have, because he had been WARNED, just as Brian warned prn nurse.
    Last edit by CATHYW on Oct 16, '02
  8. by   Sleepyeyes
    I agree, Cathy.

    And renee, I don't want to be anyone's victim. Allowing her back will surely make her think that many people agreed with her, not the other way around.
  9. by   LasVegasRN
    I will say this, and leave this alone. I did not like the behavior. Whether or not you believe the behavior reflects the actual person is up to your own interpretation. Having been on the receiving end of the behavior ever since I joined this forum and despite blocking that person continuing to see the comments quoted and referred to, it hurt. Seeing people leave as a result, was sad. I am certainly not thin-skinned in regards to racism - I've lived it all my life and will continue to do so.

    I am also not going to take offense to the people who want prn nurse back to continue the same behavior. I realize her hatred didn't affect everyone.

    It would be nice, for just one damn time, that I could go somewhere and not have to don my suit of armor against hatred. It's such a heavy load one has to carry... whether you want to or not.
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I agree and feel for you Las Vegas......you should NOT have to do that HERE, of all places!!!! I support your thinking!
  11. by   CATHYW
    [quote]originally posted by cathyw
    [b]uh, heather, who trashed prn nurse? i must have missed that one.]

    sorry, heather, i really did miss the post you are referring to. i think it must've cross-posted at the time i was sending my most recent comments to that thread.
  12. by   Sleepyeyes
    You can see her other posts by clicking here, if you have a hard time deciding whether her remarks were genuinely racist and hateful, if you want.

    http://allnurses.com/forums/search.p...earchid=196125
  13. by   Stargazer
    If you saw my post on the other thread, you'll know I think this banning was probably long overdue. I think prn is a fairly smart, often witty person who nevertheless often posted in an abrasive, aggressive and hurtful manner. Stirring up controversy is one thing--but I know a number of people had their feelings hurt by her-- and that's NOT okay.

    I honestly wish her well--but I think it's clear that she wasn't particularly good for this board. She had a lot of opportunities to clean up her act--and she chose not to.

    I think it's nonsense to act like she is being "thrown to the wolves." There's about a bazillion other internet forums out there, and I sincerely hope she finds another community that's a good fit for her.

    As Debbie said, I don't really think this is up for a vote. It's Brian's board, and it's his decision, and it appears that he has made it.
  14. by   Sleepyeyes
    ooooo,,,, renee.....you're still doing the "mellow afterglow" thing, hunh?

    it's the one time even i can be convinced there could be World Peace.....

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