Tragedy reveals need for stiffer laws....

  1. The recent tragedy involving the disappearance of 10 year old Holly Jones and subsequent finding of her dismembered remains days later in Lake Ontario horrified all Toronto residents. In the weeks following, child abduction attempts have markedly increased, leaving parents undeniably anxious (including myself).

    Yesterday, a man who lived in Holly's area was arrested and charged with the crimes, and some parents feel relieved. I for one, do not feel any relief.

    In Holly's neighbourhood alone, there are approximately 700 sex offenders (240 of them child molestors). The residents of the area had no idea of this, until recently, because the public does not have access to this information.

    It is true that offenders have rights, but it should also be true that communities should be notified of such people residing there. There is a need for some modification of the law, to give sex offenders tougher punishments as well as attending to other issues.

    Maybe if Holly's parents had known these people were living in the area, they wouldn't have let her walk to her friend's house alone. Maybe they still would have. No one can say.

    Parents know we aren't living in a safe world any more, but seem to forget that sometimes.

    As a mother, I don't feel safe in my community. I don't know what type of people are living here, and while I don't think their names and addresses should be given out, maybe knowing would hit home to parents and help them make more informed decisions.

    Please go to www.Hollyslaw.ca to sign the petition to help change the laws (Anyone from anywhere can sign).
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  2. 19 Comments

  3. by   jnette
    Just too sad. My heart goes out to her parents and all the community there. What a sick world we live in now.
  4. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    In this world, parents must take a "Universal Precautions" view of what they let their children do. That is, to assume that any person encountered could do harm to your child and act accordingly.
  5. by   CATHYW
    originally posted by hellllllo nurse
    in this world, parents must take a "universal precautions" view of what they let their children do. that is, to assume that any person encountered could do harm to your child and act accordingly.
    amen! well said!
  6. by   passing thru
    Does Canada have the death penalty?
  7. by   Gator,SN
    I am not sure now what the name of the law is here in the US but I thought that communities DO have the right to know if a child sex offender moves into the heighborhood. ?? Someone help me out. Is it the Megan law??

    I believe that it was started by a father (Klyce, or Klice?)whose daughter was abducted several years ago from her home in the middle of the night.
    Gator
  8. by   gwenith
    Originally posted by Hellllllo Nurse
    In this world, parents must take a "Universal Precautions" view of what they let their children do. That is, to assume that any person encountered could do harm to your child and act accordingly.
    I think Helllllo Nurse has the right of it. As with infection we can never be sure who is a "carrier" so we cannot be sure who is a child molester as many have never been charged. We must treat all strangers as if they could do potential harm. We, here in Queensland have had our fair share of this problem and the list includes ex-ministers and priests, foster parents and 2 members of state parliment!!!

    It is sad but true that there was an active "paedophile ring" of high profile people who were virtually untouchable. We will be paying the price for thier perversion for many years to come. The scandal of this has even brought down the Governor General of Australia forcing him to resign over allegations that he did not do enough to protect children from paedophile priests when he was archbishop of Brisbane.
  9. by   fab4fan
    IMO, you molest a child, you forever forfeit your right to live in a community. The rate of recidivism is quite high, and there's no "cure."

    In the US, we do require community notification if a sex offender moves in...thank goodness. So sorry to hear what happened.
  10. by   fab4fan
    Originally posted by Gator,SN
    I am not sure now what the name of the law is here in the US but I thought that communities DO have the right to know if a child sex offender moves into the heighborhood. ?? Someone help me out. Is it the Megan law??

    I believe that it was started by a father (Klyce, or Klice?)whose daughter was abducted several years ago from her home in the middle of the night.
    Gator
    Yes, it's Meghan's Law.
  11. by   Spidey's mom
    Yes, it is Meghan's Law. We also have Amber Alerts, named after a girl named Amber obviously, who was abducted and killed. There are freeway digital signs that immediately give info regarding a kidnapping. Some children have been found quickly.

    I think we all agree with Fab4Fan . .. . Molesters need to forfeit their rights to live in a community with children. Child molestation and murder are unforgivable sins in my eyes.

    I cannot wrap my mind around this concept of taking children's innocence. I just cannot . . .
  12. by   ton
    It's more than "not living in a community with children", freedom is too much for these people.
    Jail without releasing is the way to do it.
    (and hope that the other prisoners find out why.)
  13. by   Spidey's mom
    Ton . . . I am in complete agreement with you.

    No second chances for this crime.

    steph
  14. by   gwenith
    I do not have direct knowledge of this but I understand that prisoners who are paedophiles are termed "rockspiders" and are targeted by other prisoners who make sure that the word "punishment" applies.

    The main difficulty is the innocents who have been caught up in all of this. There are cases out there where one partner has been accused of child molestation as part of a very messy divorce. There have been cases, one famous case in England where a doctor was testing children for the "anal wink" and any child that test postive - she had the parents investigated for child sexual interferrence. There have also been many reported cases where men have been jailed because the adult children have undergone hypnosis for memory retrieval but the practitioner has instead instilled false memories.

    I am not defending child molestors in any way shape or form. In fact I believe that the correct punishement is to find some well barnacled boat in a shark filled ocean and keelhaul the !@$#!@!

    I am just saying that it is not always straight forward and easy to identify the real culprits.
    Last edit by gwenith on Jun 21, '03

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