To people/nurses who are NOT from the United States. . . .

  1. What are YOUR general observations of the world around YOU and YOUR country today? What's your take on the possible war with Iraq? What's your take on globalization? What's your take on American Politics? What's your take on the politics of your own country? What's your take on the politics of countries surrounding your own country?

    What's your definition of "Conservatism" and "Liberalism"? What other "labels" would you add besides "Conservative" and Liberal"? Where do you fall in the political spectrum? Feel free to explain. . . basically teach me - us . . . the workings of your country's politics. How many political parties does your country have?

    What is your take on the Global economy? How does this so-called globalization effect you and your country? Do YOU feel wealth is evenly distributed? What are your thoughts about countries (maybe including your own) that have an over abundance of poverty? What are your thought about countries (maybe including your own) that have an over abundance of wealth? What's your take on pollution? What's your take on "corporate responsibility"? What's your take on "corporate responsibility" with regards to the world's natural resources? What's your take on the term "free enterprise"?

    Social issues. How does your country treat criminals? Is it with a "punative" bent or is it with a "rehabilitative" bent? What's your and/or your country's view towards capital punishment? How does religion play in your life? What role does religion play in formulating your country's governmental/political policies? What is your religion (if any)? What's your take on same-sex marriages? What's your country's take on same-sex marriages? What's your take on education? What's your country's take on education? How is education financed in your country? What's your take on "universal" healthcare? How does your country handle the healthcare needs of its citizens? How is the healthcare system financed?

    Taxes. What's your take on the taxes levied in your country? How fair or unfair is your taxation structure? What does your taxes pay for?

    This is an extremley open-ended question! I'm interested in reading differing points of views. Talk about whatever interests you with regards to the world's current events.

    Just curious. . . please don't be shy.

    Cheers!

    Ted
    Last edit by Ted on Dec 4, '02
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  3. by   adrienurse
    Geeze Ted you are very verbal after nookie.

    I am opposed to a war with Iraq. Canada in general is opposed to a war with Iraq. Canada's army comprizes of six tanks and a 60 year old battle ship. Not like the US really need's Canada's vote anyway to proceed.

    Jean Chretien (the Canadian Prime Minister) is an idiot. Despite this, he has been re-elected 3 times (I voted against him 3 times). He can basically do whatever the hell he and his party wants, because he knows nobody's gonna throw him out of parliament. The country is run by members of his party who wouldn't know their political portfolios if they bit them in the ass.

    Despite being opposed to the current "Liberal" party that is in power I am a liberal at heart. I am against private citizens toting around guns, I am against capital punishement and I like my universal health care system. That being said, I am against taxpayers bailing out sports teams and private businesses that cannot make themselves profitable.

    I am a hypocrite. I like my governement services, but I want to pay less taxes. When I get my paycheck, I lose half of it to "the Government".

    Presently, my country has not legalized same-sex marriages. This makes me mad. I'm a bit of a gay-rights activist because a lot of my close friends are gay. They deserve to share the same benefits with their loved ones that everybody does.

    The health care system is very problematic. It lacks the infrostructure to compete globally. Part of the problem is that money for health care comes from provincial taxes and therefore the country does not regulate itself well. Privatized health care (such as private hospitals etc), is illegal, and the country penalizes the province if there is privatized care by cutting back on transfer payments (for such things as health $$$).
  4. by   LasVegasRN
    Originally posted by adrienurse
    Geeze Ted you are very verbal after nookie....
    Is that another way of saying he's exhibiting a lot of post-coital blabber? :chuckle
  5. by   sjoe
    I thought men always went directly to sleep afterwards.

    Just one more example of the things we can learn on this BB.
    Last edit by sjoe on Dec 4, '02
  6. by   semstr
    Ted dear, I wouldn't know where to start, because there are so many differences between our 2 countries. (in my case 3 countries)
    I tried to write about these different things in other posts.
    Still I can only write MY opinion, and I know for a fact, that my husband has got a different one, and we are very close.
    So it is hard to say, the Austrian or Dutch people think this or say this, sure, there are certain things we all think a like.
    (At the moment it is the "hype" your president and his government are making about Iraq. Most people (most, not all) think it is very overdone, plus (don't flame me please) mr. Bush does not make a very intelligent portrait of himself. stuttering around, doesn't seem to know the diplomatic rules when visiting other heads of state etc.)

    And the social thing is different too, I wrote about that a few times already, with social security for everybody and pensionfunds, automatically gone from your monthly (that is different too, isn't it? my hubby gets his every 2 weeks) salary.
    Umemployement-insurance for a year, for those who had a job before.

    Mother-childcare is free for every woman. As is the anonymous birth.
    Every woman can stay at home for 2 years after the birth of a living child.
    A pregnant woman, is not allowed to go to work 8 weeks before and 8 weeks after DOB, when the birth is premature the weeks after get longer. With twins or more, one week per child more.
    And oh, yes, with full pay in these weeks. In the 2 yearstay at home, you get 350 per month and the children's father can stay at home too.

    So just a few things here, could go on for hours, but since our schoolsystem is pretty old, I have to go and learn with my daughter now. LOL

    Take care, Renee
  7. by   donmurray
    Like Renee, it's hard to know where to start! On Iraq, No war without a new UN resolution.
    On Globalisation, not a good thing, when multinationals arrive, they not only use their economic size to smother the local competition, they bring with them their "alien culture" eg. I can walk along just about any High Street in the UK and see McD's, BurgerKing, Gap, Or any one of a dozen UK chainstores. There's less need to travel, because everywhere is the same (except for the weather!) The little local guys are squeezed out and bland mediocrity is in.
    Political Labels; That's a toughy! The Conservative (tory) party has been in power most since WW2. It's background is the wealthy aristocracy, and appeals to those with middle to upper incomes.
    The Labour Party grew out of the Trade Union's need to have a political arm, and has till now been the voice of the left, and the bluecollar worker.It is currently in power, mainly by stealing the tories' policies, and more so by the day!
    The Liberal party used to be the tories' opposition till Labour were formed, and usually trail in in third place. They win individual seats now and then, and predict a comeback which never happens. They used to occupy the centre ground, but Labour's unseemly swerve to the right has put them on the left of UK politics in many ways. It is first "past the post" here in each Parliamentery seat, the partywith most seats wins.
    There are a sprinkling of nationalist parties seeking independence from England with a handful of seats in London.
    Northern Ireland is a whole different ballgame.
    Universal Healthcare is the norm here, funded by taxation, and free at the point of use. This is accepted as the fairest, most equitable provision, and operates on 4-5% overall management cost, which compares well with most systems.
    Direct taxes are approx one third of income for most, with a top rate of 40% for the high earners. Private care is available for those who can afford it, Mostly for cold surgery, or LTC. Emergency care is almost entirely NHS.
    Education is state funded until University, where tuition fees, and Top-up fees are a hot potato, with means testing for parental contributions being introduced to cover shortfalls in funding. The older consensus that a well educated population benefits the nation as a whole, as with health, is losing ground.
    Oops! unusually verbose tonight!
    Last edit by donmurray on Dec 4, '02
  8. by   Stargazer
    Originally posted by adrienurse
    The health care system is very problematic. It lacks the infrostructure to compete globally. Part of the problem is that money for health care comes from provincial taxes and therefore the country does not regulate itself well. Privatized health care (such as private hospitals etc), is illegal, and the country penalizes the province if there is privatized care by cutting back on transfer payments (for such things as health $$$).
    Privatization is illegal? Adrienne, I'm not sure I understand this. Can you explain? The reason I'm asking is that my company contracts with clinics and hospitals in Vancouver B.C. When making a site visit last spring, we were told that more and more physicians were in fact opening up their own private practices in addition to their regular hospital/clinic work; and that now, for instance, any radiology service we needed on a night or a weekend would probably be available (for a premium fee, of course).

    Why would privatization be illegal? Or are we talking apples and oranges here somehow?
  9. by   LasVegasRN
    Originally posted by donmurray
    ...Oops! unusually verbose tonight!
    You are just so sexy when you get all verbose like that.
  10. by   Ted
    It's very interesting. . . and very educational! I feel out of touch with how the rest of the world thinks, lives, etc.

    You don't have to answer all questions! All is ask is that you share your point of view with regards to any topic that suits your fancy! I guess I should have made that clearer. . . sorry! :imbar

    My gratitude to all who spends anytime writing for this thread.
    It's appreciated. . . and, like I said, very informative.

    Cheers!

    Ted
  11. by   fergus51
    Only some privatisation is illegal, like doctors don't bill people separately from the gov't, but private clinics that do MRIs and other diagnostic tests and surgeries are allowed. Most are contracted out to ICBC, cops and criminals care.
  12. by   adrienurse
    Stargazer. Okay, illegal is a harsh word. It's pertty complicated and I admit, I am no expert. Please speak up if you think I don't know what I'm saying.

    As I understand it, some things can run be privately and some cannot. In the category of community heath (which the government has no control of politically [this is part of the problem with the Canadian health system -- it is not equitably funded]), private is okay. Doctor's offices, sports health clinics, nurse-managed clinics can be private. These are *private* (ie owned by those running them), but their services are purchased by the government -- so they have to tow the line. These are basically the services that Medicare (the canadian universial health care system) does not cover. Medicare only covers minimal home care services and anything else needs to be purchased by the public. There are therefore public and private homecare services in Canada. Nursing Home care is subsidized only, by the government. People have the option of living in province-run nursing homes (where basic services are covered and there is a per diem charge) but the waiting lists are long. Private nursing homes have a bad rep, but when your elderly mother needs to be admitted right away, they are an option (people pay through the nose for crappy [IMHO] care and substandard conditions).

    See, clear as mud. Ain's Canadian public policy fun?

    Medicare covers inpatient care.
    All "government" health services -- such as hospitals, public health nursing offices are public only and cannot earn profit. These services are free (there are some exceptions - of course) to the public. The catch is that people have to wait for that surgery or CT scan if it is not deemed an "emergency". This is why a lot of people go to the US to pay to get their procedures done right away. That's why there are a lot of very profitable diagnostic imaging clinics in small US border towns. That's why my Great Aunt Angie has been on a waiting list for 3 years to get her knee replaced.

    There are, of course a lot of gray areas. For example, if you have an abortion done in a hospital it is free. If you have it done in the community in an abortion clinic, it is not (and is, by definition -- not *legal* according to the Private Health Care act. Eye surgery is another issue. There are some *renegade* private eye surgery clinics that provide surgery for a cost and do not have the long waiting lists that the public eye clinics have. The catch is that they cannot keep their patients overnight for observation. There used to be a private surgical clinic here that did hip and knee replacements, but it had to follow those same rules. It was recently "absorbed" by the government and is now run *legally* by purchase of services agreement. Therefore not profit.

    The Federal Government does not conduct "raids" of these facilites of course to shut them down. They penalize the Provinces for allowing them to exist, by giving them less money with which to allocate to Health Care funding.

    So that is why the Canadien health care system is so screwed up. WHeee!
  13. by   fergus51
    3 years to get a knee replaced? My dad just had his done after being on the waitlist for 4 months. Where is your aunt?
  14. by   adrienurse
    Thunder Bay Ontario.

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