The Bush tax cut calculator

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    Compare your tax cut savings against a select few CEO's in the US.


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  2. 24 Comments

  3. by   Tilleycs
    They're being allowed to keep more of what they've already earned. How horrible. Anybody want to pay what THEY pay in taxes, either before or after the tax cut?
  4. by   Ted
    Originally posted by Tilleycs
    They're being allowed to keep more of what they've already earned. How horrible. Anybody want to pay what THEY pay in taxes, either before or after the tax cut?
    It is horrible, actually, when you think about it!





    They have the $$$$$ to influence the government in ways we can only dream about. . . . .

    Smells like their influence succeeded!



    Please. . . . . .
  5. by   Tilleycs
    They have the $$$$$ to influence the government in ways we can only dream about. . . . .

    Smells like their influence succeeded!
    So, if WE had the money and chose to influence the gov't (although I can't imagine a bigger WASTE of time or money), we'd of course be in "the right" and do a MUCH better job, right? "The rich" were the ones who wanted this tax cut, right?
  6. by   Gomer
    As, I said before, a "RICH MAN'S" tax break.
  7. by   Ted
    Originally posted by Tilleycs
    So, if WE had the money and chose to influence the gov't (although I can't imagine a bigger WASTE of time or money), we'd of course be in "the right" and do a MUCH better job, right? "The rich" were the ones who wanted this tax cut, right?

    Here's the REALITY. . . we don't have influence over the government.

    And we're the American citizenry! We're the back bone of this country.

    I resent any tax break. Seeing how the "leaders" of our country have decided to spend lots of $$$$$ with our most recent war (with Iraq). . . it just doesn't make any fiscal sense to approve any tax break.

    Yet, there was still a reduction in taxes.

    There's more to government than just the "hand outs". There are governmental programs that. . . quite frankly. . . . help ensure all of our safety with regards to food, drugs, heatlhcare, flying, fires, crimes. . . . which I would GLADLY have my tax dollars go to!

    I have little respect for the opinions of those who think the tax break was a great idea.

    It was not a good idea.

    It rots and stinks to high heaven!!!

    (Sorry. . . . caught me in a very bad mood. . . .)
  8. by   Tilleycs
    Ted, I'm shocked that you say that you have no respect for other people's opinions who don't line up with yours (that's usually not like you), but that's your choice.

    I say to anyone who doesn't want to keep more of what they make (or, in Ted's case, if you resent the tax cut), as the saying goes, "Put your money where your mouth is" and send the gov't a check! I'm sure they'd gladly accept it. If not, you support the tax cut by your actions, by accepting it.

    A "rich man's" tax break. Since they pay more taxes, if taxes are reduced, they get more back, even if the percentage is the same across the board.

    Hope your day gets better, Ted.
  9. by   PennyLane
    Hey Ted I'm with you.

    It's still the good old boy network coming out on top. Hey--it got Bush to where he is today, it seems to be working!
  10. by   Ted
    Originally posted by Tilleycs
    Ted, I'm shocked that you say that you have no respect for other people's opinions who don't line up with yours (that's usually not like you), but that's your choice.

    I say to anyone who doesn't want to keep more of what they make (or, in Ted's case, if you resent the tax cut), as the saying goes, "Put your money where your mouth is" and send the gov't a check! I'm sure they'd gladly accept it. If not, you support the tax cut by your actions, by accepting it.

    A "rich man's" tax break. Since they pay more taxes, if taxes are reduced, they get more back, even if the percentage is the same across the board.

    Hope your day gets better, Ted.
    :chuckle :roll :chuckle

    I'm not getting any money back!!!!

    I probably shouldn't have been so strong in writing my opinion about people who thinks the tax break is just dandy.

    My sincerest apologies! :kiss

    Wouldn't want any of those "supporters" as my accountants though! :stone
  11. by   Q.
    Originally posted by Gomer
    As, I said before, a "RICH MAN'S" tax break.
    YUP. 'Cuz I should continue my education, so I can make more money, so I can support everyone else.

    Riiiiiight.

    Since I don't recieve assistance in any form, I RELY on my and my husband's income to support us currently, invest and plan for retirement and our children. So in other words, keeping more of what I earned helps me to do that. Unless, of course, everyone wants to send ME a check to accomplish that.
  12. by   Q.
    It is horrible, actually, when you think about it!
    Why?
    Since "the rich" (which by Clinton's standards is ME) pay more in taxes, they usually get more back. Makes sense right? Why are you against that?

    Say for example you and I invest in Dell stock. And I invest $10 and you invest $1. I see a bigger return that you because I invested $9 more dollars than you. Am I to split my earnings up equally between us, though you invested less? Or are you going to fault me for seeing more of a return, though I paid more to begin with?

    Say I return to school for my Master's degree and you decide you don't want to. I pay nearly $25,000 in tuition, you pay nothing. And as a result, I get a job that pays me more than you make. Am I at fault, and should I divide my earnings up between us, though I invested $25,000 and time and you didn't?
  13. by   Spidey's mom
    Great point Susy K . . . . my husband and I are considered "rich" too. The truth is we live paycheck to paycheck . . . and not because of poor planning. (I mentioned in another thread that we own a van (paid for and for sale), an SUV (making payments) and a couple of trucks (paid for and our kid's) - just wanted to clear that up in case someone thought we were making 4 auto payments). :-)

    My in-laws are considered "rich" also because they own a farm which is in debt. They shop discount grocery stores, buy their clothes at thrift shops, and don't spend money they don't have and are taxed in the "rich person's" bracket.

    If I pay more in taxes, I should get more back. Simple math.

    Cut the waste in government first . . then we'll talk about raising my taxes.

    Speaking of running your household like the government . . . geez. Why don't we all just spend our paycheck on great meals in expensive restaurants, go to the movies every night, buy a boatload of new clothes for everyone in the family, restock the wine cellar, head off to the local casino . . . . .and then with the leftovers (?) try to pay our bills. That is how our government works now . . . spend money on the PORK first, then we'll see about highways and education and medicine and protecting our country.

    I will not feel guilty for wanting more of what I earned.

    steph
  14. by   Tilleycs
    Ted - no problem, bro. Apology accepted. I know "you liberals" tend to get emotional about these things. LOL! Kidding! And don't worry, I'm not planning on becoming an accountant any time soon.

    Susy - Oh NO, everything HAS to be "fair" by a different definition. It doesn't matter if you've worked hard, sacrificed, planned, struggled, prayed, lost sleep, and persevered - if you have something that they don't have, they're entitled to it. You don't want them to feel BAD about themselves, do you? You don't want them to feel like they're worth less than you, do you?

    It doesn't matter whether they've done everything you've done - we need to have a level playing field. We all need to be equals, and try to make life as "fair" as possible. Those who have "won life's lottery" need to share with those who weren't given as much.

    <Hopefully you're catching my sarcasm. You can probably wipe if off the bottom of the screen since this post was dripping with it.>

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