Study: 655,000 Iraqis Dead Since US-led Invasion

  1. Study: 655,000 Iraqis Dead Since US-led Invasion

    A new medical study says the number of Iraqi deaths since the US-led invasion has reached more than 655,000. The study was carried out by many of the same researchers behind the Johns Hopkins University survey that put the death toll at 100,000 two years ago. Researchers based their findings on interviews with a random sampling of households taken in clusters across Iraq.

    The newest survey yielded the same estimate of immediate post-invasion deaths as the first one. Attacks from US-led coalition forces accounted for thirty percent of the reported deaths. The actual number of dead could be higher. The 655,000 figure represents an estimate of "excess deaths" - people who wouldn't have died had the US not invaded.

    The study is already coming under criticism. Anthony Cordesman, an analyst with the Center for Strategic & International Studies said the researchers were playing politics ahead of the November mid-term elections. In response, University of Michigan professor and Middle East scholar Juan Cole wrote: "Is he saying that 18,000 households from all over Iraq conspired to lie to Johns Hopkins University researchers for the purpose of defeating Republicans in US elections this November?".

    http://www.democracynow.org/print.pl.../10/11/1430212

    More links:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...raq-dead_x.htm

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_4474846

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/11/wo...=1&oref=slogin
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  2. 12 Comments

  3. by   TheCommuter
    What a tragedy. With any war there's going to be an inevitable and indelible human cost.
  4. by   bethin
    Holy crap!!! I never thought that that many Iraqis had died. That's a staggering number.

    Just saw on yahoo.com that the Army is staying until 2010. How many will be dead by then?
  5. by   pickledpepperRN
    Here is a link to the study:
    http://www.jhsph.edu/refugee/research/iraq/

    It is just too sad to think about.
    I can cry and pray, but can't comprehend.
  6. by   indigo girl
    Last edit by indigo girl on Oct 12, '06
  7. by   Katnip
    What's interesting is that during Bush's press conference yesterday, a reporter brought up that figure and Bush categorically denied it. He said the numbers were more like 80,000.
  8. by   indigo girl
    Quote from cyberkat
    What's interesting is that during Bush's press conference yesterday, a reporter brought up that figure and Bush categorically denied it. He said the numbers were more like 80,000.

    Remember this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR6GU0C42qc
  9. by   Katnip
    I hadn't seen that particular interview, but similar things.

    I do tend to take everything everyone says with a grain a salt. I do think Woodward does have a tough job here.
  10. by   indigo girl
    There seems to be a disconnect between what the people are saying and what the "officials" are saying.

    They want the Americans out of there because of the increased level of violence that they are bearing the brunt of.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092800408.html
    Last edit by indigo girl on Oct 12, '06
  11. by   pickledpepperRN
    I don't think the President understands the scientific method.
  12. by   indigo girl
  13. by   indigo girl
    Quote from spacenurse
    I don't think the President understands the scientific method.
    Maybe he'll understand what this British general is saying? I don't expect this man to be leading his country's forces much longer though:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1921450,00.html

    Quote from www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1921450,00.html
    General Sir Richard Dannatt, the head of the army, dropped a political bombshell last night by saying that Britain must withdraw from Iraq "soon" or risk serious consequences for Iraqi and British society.

    "We are in a Muslim country and Muslims' views of foreigners in their country are quite clear.

    "As a foreigner, you can be welcomed by being invited in a country, but we weren't invited ... by those in Iraq at the time. The military campaign we fought in 2003 effectively kicked the door in.
    Last edit by indigo girl on Oct 13, '06
  14. by   indigo girl
    How to Make Hundreds of Thousands of Dead Iraqis Disappear:

    http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/43224/
    Quote from www.alternet.org/waroniraq/43224/

    Suzanne Malveaux ... asked him [Bush] about the study. He replied that "their methodology has been pretty well discredited." This is a bald-faced lie, of course. But here's my question. Were there any follow-ups?... What the hell kind of society kills all these people and cannot be bothered to care? Cannot be bothered to count them and when someone does, risking their lives in the process, lies to discredit them -- and no one cares about that either?

    A Republican political consultant... Hitchens, writes in Slate: "The Lancet figures are almost certainly inflated, not least because they were taken from selective war-torn provinces"...In fact, the first claim is flat-out false...The study specifically did not pick particularly violent provinces, as Hitchens could have discovered if he looked at the study...
    Last edit by indigo girl on Oct 21, '06

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