Story In Tampa Bay Newspaper

  1. Someone sent this to me, thought I'd share it with you guys.

    Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice?????? Think about it . . .

    .

    All I have to say is, when will they do something about
    MY RIGHTS? I celebrate Christmas, but because it isn't celebrated by everyone, we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings. It's not Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday? We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with that.

    This says it all!


    This is an editorial written by an
    American citizen, published in a
    Tampa newspaper. He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please!

    IMMIGRANTS,
    NOT AMERICANS,
    MUST ADAPT.
    I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks
    on Sept. 11,
    we have experienced a surge
    in patriotism by the majority
    of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about

    the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

    I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is
    seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost
    entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there
    are a few things that those
    who have recently come to
    our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea
    of America being a
    multicultural community
    has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As
    Americans, we
    have our own culture, our
    own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of
    men and women who have sought freedom.


    We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
    Russian, or any other language.
    Therefore, if you wish to become part
    of our society, learn the language!

    "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right
    wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and
    women,
    on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
    documented.
    It is certainly appropriate to display it
    on the walls of our schools. If God
    offends you, then I suggest you
    consider another part of the world as
    your new home, because God is part
    of our culture.

    If Stars and Stripes offend you, or
    you don't like Uncle Sam, then you
    should seriously consider a move
    to another part of this planet. We
    are happy with our culture and have
    no desire to change, and we really
    don't care how you did things where
    you came from. This is
    OUR COUNTRY,
    our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the
    right to express his opinion and we
    will allow you every opportunity to do
    so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag,

    our pledge, our national motto, or our
    way of life, I highly encourage you
    take advantage of one other great American freedom,
    THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
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  2. 48 Comments

  3. by   fergus51
    It has been my experience that it is seldom immigrants that object to those things. It is native born Americans who complain about God and government, sue over things, etc. Where should they go?

    I guess being a sort of immigrant, I have little concern about everyone having to be the same type of American. I don't worry anymore about someone thinking I am not American enough, whatever that means. Personally, I always thought the best thing about America is its diversity. It may be corny, but I like the mosaic idea. I like living in a city with citizens from around the world. I like being able to open the phone book and order Thai, Indian, Carribean and Morrocan food all from the same restaurant I like the various festivals and celebrations of holidays I know nothing about (any excuse for a parade or party is good enough for me). I don't feel it has taken anything away from me culturally. Maybe that's the Canadian side of me, but I don't think it's unAmerican by any means.
  4. by   Soonstudent
    Quote from fergus51
    It has been my experience that it is seldom immigrants that object to those things. It is native born Americans who complain about God and government, sue over things, etc. Where should they go?

    I guess being a sort of immigrant, I have little concern about everyone having to be the same type of American. I don't worry anymore about someone thinking I am not American enough, whatever that means. Personally, I always thought the best thing about America is its diversity. It may be corny, but I like the mosaic idea. I like living in a city with citizens from around the world. I like being able to open the phone book and order Thai, Indian, Carribean and Morrocan food all from the same restaurant I like the various festivals and celebrations of holidays I know nothing about (any excuse for a parade or party is good enough for me). I don't feel it has taken anything away from me culturally. Maybe that's the Canadian side of me, but I don't think it's unAmerican by any means.


    Good point fergus, especially the first paragragh. I'll have to say I agree with you.
  5. by   NurseHardee
    Fergus, immigrants don't complain of these things often, because they are usually just struggling to survive. PLUS, many times their unfamiliarity with American culture makes the implications of many political issues unclear to the immigrant.

    Nurse Hardee
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    <<fergus51
    It has been my experience that it is seldom immigrants that object to those things. It is native born Americans who complain about God and government, sue over things, etc. Where should they go?>>
  6. by   duckboy20
    I don't mind LEGAL immigrants. I do have a problem with us now having to learn new languages to accommodate for the immigrant problem. To me, if people wish to stay in america then they need to learn the language. I think that is one of the biggest problems I see.
  7. by   fergus51
    Quote from NurseHardee
    Fergus, immigrants don't complain of these things often, because they are usually just struggling to survive. PLUS, many times their unfamiliarity with American culture makes the implications of many political issues unclear to the immigrant.

    Nurse Hardee
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    That may be true of new immigrants, but hasn't been my experience with immigrants who have been here a while or become citizens. They are just as capable of discussing our politics as native born citizens, sometimes more so because they have to pass a test on our country that includes the government before they get citizenship. The long running joke at the immigrant services office where I volunteered was "If you want to know anything about Canada, ask an immigrant". I found the same thing in the US.
  8. by   Tweety
    That letter has been around a while. The anger and prejudice that lurks behind is a bit disturbing to me. But perhaps I'm reading too much into it. Perhaps it's just good old American patriotism.

    I think immigrant Americans, especially Arab Americans who were beat up after Sept. 11th weren't just a little a offended by our insensitivity.

    No one is asking you to bend over backwards not to be offensive. But more and more the Christian white folks need to be sensitive to the fact that there are other persons in this country.

    Would it kill you to say "Season's Greetings".

    I am of the "this is America, learn English" school however. But just because someone doesn't speak my language doesn't mean behind the scenes they aren't trying.

    What's wrong with a little politeness and sensitivity to immigrants?

    Yes, assimilate. Yes, speak our language. But know you don't have to say "Merry Christmas" if you're a Buddhist immigrant. You don't have to think like me.

    Why should Christian white people define the "values" of this country?
  9. by   NurseHardee
    Actually, Fergus, passing that test by La Migra doesn't prepare anybody to talk American politics with any real knowledge! And I disagree that many immigrants that have become citizens, or been here awhile, are all that immersed in US culture equal to the level of long term US citizens.

    <<It has been my experience that it is seldom immigrants that object to those things. It is native born Americans who complain about God and government, sue over things, etc. Where should they go?>>

    One reason many Spanish speaking people don't see the separation of church and state to be a big issue for them in the US, is simply that compared to Latin America, the US does a much better job of this than they are accusomed to. It is not that they are against the idea and want America to be declared some sort of Christian Republic. Many are more opposed to religion being welded to government than other US citizens are.

    Nurse Hardee
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    Quote from fergus51
    That may be true of new immigrants, but hasn't been my experience with immigrants who have been here a while or become citizens. They are just as capable of discussing our politics as native born citizens, sometimes more so because they have to pass a test on our country that includes the government before they get citizenship. The long running joke at the immigrant services office where I volunteered was "If you want to know anything about Canada, ask an immigrant". I found the same thing in the US.
    Last edit by NurseHardee on Apr 13, '04
  10. by   fergus51
    Hardee, I am saying that's been my experience. I know more native born citizens who can't explain what congress even does let alone discuss politics other than "Clinton got a bj" or "Bush is evil".

    The immigrant communities I work with the most are very involved in this country, including the political life. It's created some tension among the "native" Canadians (most notably when a Quebec politician claimed "the ethnics" cost him the referendum) and among those communities (especially where wives are becoming more outspoken than they would have been in their homeland) but it is simply a fact of life.

    Most of our legal immigrants are well off and well educated and are able to keep up on current events in this country quite well. They aren't the struggling wretched immigrants of tv specials, those immigrants are a very small minority. When I was in BC (british columbia), another long running joke was that BC meant "Bring Cash" because many of our immigrants were only permitted to stay in the country when they could prove they had the money to start a business that would employ Canadian citizens. These immigrants certainly have the knowledge and the ability to participate in politics, I just don't find many of them have any interest in eroding Canadian or American traditions. I mean seriously, have you ever heard of a muslim family demanding that the school system give a month off for Ramadan or complaining that clerks wish them Merry Christmas or demanding that quotations from the Quran be displayed in court houses? I find immigrants much less demanding and intrusive than native Christians. Most immigrants I know will happily practice their own culture quietly and don't expect me to change my beliefs for them.
  11. by   NurseHardee
    Damn, Fergus, you just gave me an idea! My municipal courthouse in this county has the Ten Commandments on a plaque, hung on the side of the relatively new constructed building. I think that I'm going to try to start up a local campaign to put some Quranic passages up there beside them. But first, I'm going to drive into Houston and see if my favorite mosque is going to be supportive of this idea? And then I'm coming back home and try to get the Christian pastors at all the local churches involved in this Respect for Religions Campaign. :chuckle

    Nurse Hardee

    <<I mean seriously, have you ever heard of a muslim family demanding that the school system give a month off for Ramadan or complaining that clerks wish them Merry Christmas or demanding that quotations from the Quran be displayed in court houses? I find immigrants much less demanding and intrusive than native Christians.>>
  12. by   Jaaaman
    I mean seriously, have you ever heard of a muslim family demanding that the school system give a month off for Ramadan or complaining that clerks wish them Merry Christmas or demanding that quotations from the Quran be displayed in court houses? I find immigrants much less demanding and intrusive than native Christians.
    Yes, we white native Christians (in our intrusive manner) are literally "shoving" are beliefs down everyones throats. Like we are the enemy of the state or something. :chuckle
  13. by   NurseHardee
    Now, now. Don't play the victim here. Everybody still thinks most kindly about all you benevolent white native Christians. Why wouldn't they? :imbar

    Quote from Jaaaman
    Yes, we white native Christians (in our intrusive manner) are literally "shoving" are beliefs down everyones throats. Like we are the enemy of the state or something. :chuckle
  14. by   fergus51
    I'm just stating my opinion Jaaman. I have never had a buddhist or Sikh or muslim or jew wake me up by knocking on my door to talk to me about God. Does that happen in other areas?

    I don't think Christians are bad, but I do think they are more interested in increasing their numbers through conversion than other groups in this country and definitely more vocal about their religion in general and demand it be the basis for laws that affect us all. That's what I mean by intrusive. I mean we look at countries that institute Sharia law and say they are barbaric, then the Christian argument against gay marriage or abortion is "The Bible says....", completely ignoring the fact that the Bible is not a book we all believe in.

    I know it's cause they just want to share the word and all. I have taken the view that they are trying to be nice by introducing me to something that has made their lives better in the hopes that it will have the same effect on me. I just smile and brush it off. No harm done.
    Last edit by fergus51 on Apr 13, '04

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