STATE OF THE UNION Message; anyone hear it? How'd it go?

  1. What is the "state" of our country? What's your opinion?
  2. 62 Comments

  3. by   CashewLPN
    um... apparantly, GW went up there, basically said that:
    1) the economy is not doing as well as he'd like..
    2) there should be tax reform
    3) Frivolous lawsuits should stop...
    4) he set a date for iraq to disarm, with a basic or else clause enclosed....
    theres more... of course...

    um... basically... it was ok...
    the state of our country-- alive and breathing.
  4. by   emily_mom
    He had lots of big ideas that got huge applause, but where's the money going to come for that? Like giving each taxpayer a check for $1000 instead of waiting for the credit on your taxes. Sure, I'll be waiting by the mailbox for that one. If they did, they'd eat it up in the taxes they weren't supposed to raise anyhow. He wants to put healthcare back in the doctors, nurses, and patients hands instead of an HMO.....YAH RIGHT.....

    Lots of ideas...nothing to back it up.....was a waste of my TV viewing night (I missed Frasier for that?????)

  5. by   pickledpepperRN
    Like Alice in Wonderland!

    "Decrease taxes, more spending." (the war, H2 cars, medication for Africa, but not Americans. Even the VA has had cuts in services)

    "A small group of men who want to wage war" ???WHO???

    No evidence there are the alleged weapons. If Iraq has weapons we attack. If none are found we attack. If they report them to the inspectors do we still attack. My USA has never started a war except in defense. Please not now. A proactive plan would be to try to prevent the next generation from wanting to do this.

    For us boomers the end of the Soviet Block seemed like a relief. Now this is more frightening than ever before (to me). Are we going to start WWIII?

    "Doctors and nurses should make the health care decisions" (So decreasing malpractice awards can do that?)

    "I am for choice, so if seniors give up their medicare choice and join an HMO they may get prescription drug benefits."( and give up a second opinion.)

    God help us all if we start a nuclear war!

    Please let me find my way out of the rabbit hole. I want to wake up from this nightmare!
    Last edit by pickledpepperRN on Jan 30, '03
  6. by   delirium
    I thought it was reasonable, and according to a post-speech poll, about 70% of Americans think that Bush has the same priorities for America that they do.

    I am so on the get Hussein bandwagon, but that's another thread.

    He seems to be taking a page out of Reagan's book and spending a ton of money (I didn't see any restraint exercised whatsoever) to buy votes/allegiance/loyalty.

    I would like to personally teach him how to pronounce the word 'nuclear'.

    New-clee-err. Say it with me now, Mr. President. Phonics works.

    Did you see all the shots of Hilary? She looked rather green.
  7. by   portland_guy
    My impression was that our country is being run by a madman. He looked very imperialistic on the podium as he knows he is currently the leader of the only super power left. "I've got big guns and I am gonna show the world we can use 'em."

    I am pretty afraid right now where he is taking our country.
  8. by   schoolnurse912
    : I think that sadam has proven himself to be a liar in the past and cannot be trusted. I think the president made a valid point that if we wait until he does something that cant be denied or hidden then it will be too late. I would rather take care of it when we still have some control and not wait until its an all out war or until the lunatic bombs somebody. It would send a message to the other terroists. Everybody is scared of going to war- I hate to even think about it but I think its inevitable and I think the longer we wait the more time he has to build more weapons. Hes staling and buying time by playing political games.
  9. by   delirium
    I think it would be irresponsible to wait for France to finally jump on the bandwagon so that we could do all of this with the backing of United Nations.

    AND don't even get me started on what I think about illegal aliens in this country.
  10. by   whipping girl in 07
    I personally think France is pretty damn ungrateful for our country's saving their ASS during WWII and Germany is just as bad after we REBUILT their country after the war. The reason France, Germany and Russia are against our attacking Iraq is that they stand to lose a lot of $$$ in investments/deals they have made with Iraq (Russia has a 23 year contract to buy oil from Iraq). Maybe if some airplanes had been flown into the Eiffel Tower the French would feel a little differently. (Don't think for a moment that Hussein and al Quaeda are not at least indirectly connected.) Saddam has been given many chances to prove that he does not mean us or his neighbors harm and refuses to comply with UN resolutions that are over 10 years old. We made a mistake not finishing him off in 1991; we had better not make that mistake again.

    As for the state of the economy, the uncertainty of will-we-won't-we go to war is not helping and things will actually improve once we begin to act. I certainly don't want a war, but we cannot risk having another North Korea on our hands in 10-15 years. I don't want anyone to have to die, but many have died in our past to preserve our freedom and the freedom of others.

    If Saddam Hussein gives no thought to killing his own people, including torturing his own citizens' children to bring about confessions from the parents, why should he feel bad for killing "evil" Americans? The Holocaust should remind us that appeasement of a dictator will not save lives or keep the peace.

    I believe Bush is sincere in his desire to reform Medicare, cut taxes, and help those less fortunate. The only way these things can come about is to take a hard look at our spending as a nation and cut out the pork, the waste, the bureaucracy, the red tape. It probably won't happen, but that doesn't mean we should not try. Our government should not exist to provide entitlements and take care of the people. People should be willing to take care of themselves. Trial lawyers have become rich by encouraging people to sue when a possible case of malpractice exists, knowing that the insurance companies will settle rather than go to court and make the plantiff prove the case.

    I could go on...
  11. by   VivaLasViejas
    I had to mute the TV when the inevitable war talk began, because I can only stand to hear the leader of the free world say "nucular" so many times. I can understand this from a fourth-grade dropout, but you'd think someone who not only went to college, but became President of the United States, would have bothered to learn to pronounce it correctly. He represents this country to people all over the world, and he sounds like a @#**! moron. And don't get me started on what I think about his policies on Iraq, health care reform, taxes, a woman's right to choose...well, it's unprintable.
  12. by   emily_mom
    You guys crack me up!!

  13. by   delirium
    Dood, did you catch the way he pronounced 'peninsula'?

  14. by   Lausana
    Man, I missed nuc-lar!! I'll have to look for a sound bite...I used to love it when he would say 'Smokin em outta there holes!' looks like I've got a new favorite