feel free to add discussion to this particular "sticky" thread!
is is a full moon outside? are we all just in a cranky mood?
or maybe it's just me. maybe i unreasonably wish that we can have debates and discussions that do not spiral down to mud slinging.
honestly! i don't care what you choose to discuss or debate. but i do care how you respond to one another. i know that not every post can be a perfect example of polite debate. but, geeze folks, there's been more debate about each other than on the topics at hand.
here's a few suggestions
(note: just suggestions, not rules!):
1) if the debate starts to get heated, count to ten before posting.
2) if the debate gets too heated, avoid addressing each other by name. instead, just write more in general terms. . . again focused on the topic. (honesty time: i actually hate it when people address me by name during a recognized debate. it is a pet-peeve of mine
3) stick to the topic at hand. (am i beginning to sound redundant?)
4) write to those as you would like to be written to.
5) use words like "i" or "my" and avoid using "you" or "your" during heated debates.
6) do not debate like the so-called "professionals" do on television. what's usually seen on those "point/counterpoint" type television debates is entertainment, not constructive discussion/debate! most of that type of televised "personal attacking type" debating would be against this bulletin board's terms of service! we're better than that, folks!!
feel free to add any constructive
advise on respectful debating on this particular thread! i'm sure many of us have taken debate classes (or something along those lines). share your knowledge. what have been your postive experiences in a healthy, respectful debate?? share!
finally, this is a "current events" forum. any type of current events can be posted here (just as long as it's kept in the pg-13 realm.) in other words, it's "o. k." to post topics that are not necessarily political in nature. no one is going to discourage the type of topics posted here. but variety is the spice to life. there's a whole world of current events happening out there. some interesting. some not so interesting. but all fair game for this forum!
with only my deepest respect to you all
p. s. again, if you see a post or member who is violating a tos, report that post or member to the moderators/administrators. it really is an effective tool in keeping this bulletin board a pleasant place to visit for all.
Feb 14, '04
Wow! Someone responded to my thread! I'm excited! Thank you! Usually threads that I start take a sharp nose dive to the bottom of the forum.
And you can call me Ted!
("efiebke" is just the UserId that I use.)
Honestly! I don't care if politics or religion or even sex (kept within a PG13 realm, of course!) is discussed. What is discussed does not matter. HOW it's discussed does. Especially of late.
I'm also painfully aware that 2004 is the year of the Presidential Elections. Naturally, people are going to post whatever to state their case for so and so. Understand that ALL politicians are fair game for comment. But there's not reason to "diss" each other because one has a "politically left" bent and the other has a "politically right" one. I would hate to see this forum resemble the sleeze-ball television debates that attack the television viewing audience 24 hours a day. Again, I say that we're better than that! There are plenty of other political debating forums on the internet that hold similar "attack the opponent" type of formats. This forum does not need to be one of "those".
And. . . AGAIN. . . there's more to "Current Events" than just politics. YES! I've been guilty of sharing my own political points of view and I make NO apologies to that fact. But at the same time, I try to even out what I post with a few non-politically related current events. This is NOT an expectation that we start pandering to my wishes that non-political current events be posted too. But it is a request that non-political issues be considered for discussion too.
My personal vision of this "Current Events" forum is that current events be shared from differing people from differing cultures from different countries from around the world. Although there is a huge percentage of U. S. citizens that belong to this bulletin board, there truly is a significant number of non-U.S. citizens that "surf" here too! There's a fair number of people from Europe, Australia, Asia, Latin America, the continent of Africa, and even that wonderful country, Canada, located just a couple of hundred miles from where I live. There's a HUGE potential of interesting international news that can be shared on this forum!!!
Sadly, it's not! My personal vision of the "Current Events" forum was NOT just to debate issues, but also to LEARN from the "current events" that's happening around the globe! Personally, I hold a fascination in learning from other people's cultures and traditions. This includes their current events in politics, economics, religion, healthcare, technology, government, sociology, weather, sports and music! This forum presents a wonderful opportunity to learn from one another!
Again, this is just MY personal "dream" of what this forum can provide all of us members of "Allnurses.com". Again. . . HONESTLY. . . I am NOT trying to discourage any political debates. All I ask is that we keep tucked in the back of our minds that there can be more to this forum than just political debates. (Although it would be interesting to read the political issues debated by other countries!!! That would be way cool to me!!!
The world is getting smaller, not larger. People are traveling here and there for whatever reason in greater numbers. Learning is the first step in understanding. And in order to solve many of the problems we all share as citizens of Planet Earth, we need to understand each other at least a little bit better. As nurses, we can help lead the way by example if by nothing else. This forum can help us as we learn and grow to understand ourselves and each other.
P. S. For Maureeno - I just read your post after I wrote this long "whatever". You will be missed, maureeno!
Last edit by Ted on Feb 15, '04
Feb 15, '04
edited to read: boy does this particular post of mine go on and on and on. i wrote it just before going to bed. vomiting out lots of words on the computer keyboard is one symptom of me being very, very, very tired! (and i just woke up after only 2 hours sleep to go to a gilbert and sullivan show rehearsal and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. . . . . )
everyone! points well taken!
and thanks for responding to my thread! :kiss
(even though i did put a "sticky" on it so that it won't sink to the bowels of this forum!)
i have to make one comment, though. by in large, people post respectfully here! we all get carried away by our passion at times and direct less than kind postings towards other members. i am most certainly guilty of that too! but in comparison to some of the bulletin boards i've encountered in the past, this is a fairly respectful "discussion/debating" forum. most other bulletin boards that offer some kind of "off topic" or "break room" forums have threads & postings that get down right nasty with tons of those "%#*&" words directed squarely towards "opposing" individuals. one of the worst bulletin boards i used to visit was operated by cnn. i think its format has changed within the past couple of years, but it political forums were nasty-nasty! and no one from any part of the political spectrum was an angel. (and most certainly, no one from any part of the political spectrum could honestly claim the role of "martyr"!) another bulletin board (focused on music and recording) got so bad that no one has returned to it for months - - and it used to be a very popular place to hang out and "chat" with fellow musicians. overall, this forum is better than "that". not 100% of the time. but a great percentage of the time.
i appreciate the steps people are taking here to make amends for past "overly heated" postings. this is very sincerely commendable. and i need to make my amends toward past "nasty postings" as well. apologies.
but i hope people know that there's been some great, great discussions and debates here as well. ones that participants can be proud of. many debates and discussions have existed on this forum which not only allowed differing opinions to be expressed without fear of "retaliation" but which also showed evidence of learning and growth by an individual or two or three or more. that is effective discussion and debate of "hot button" issues and current events.
we most certainly will not agree with each other's points of views all of the time. but i sense an sincere effort to commit to the practice of "respectful postings". and to this sincere effort i say, "thank you"!
again, with nothing but the deepest respect for all of you!
Last edit by Ted on Feb 15, '04
Feb 15, '04
i'm going to "unsticky" this thread now! let's see how fast it will sink to the bottomest bowels of this forum!
on your mark. . .
get set. . . .
and the dive downward begins now!!!!!!!!!
(at 3:28 pm, sunday 2/15/2004)
peace to you all! :kiss
Last edit by Ted on Feb 15, '04