Soldier's Uniform Hangs From Noose In Front Of Home

  1. Display Stirs Controversy In Land Park
    Soldier's Uniform Hangs From Noose In Front Of Home

    POSTED: 7:58 am PST February 9, 2005
    UPDATED: 1:43 pm PST February 9, 2005

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Nestled in a quiet Sacramento neighborhood is a very loud political statement that is testing the very foundation of the right to free speech.

    Hanging from a house in Land Park, a soldier's uniform in a noose dangles from a rooftop. The words "your tax dollars at work" are scrolled across the chest.

    In a community full of patriotism, this view of the war in Iraq has not gone unnoticed.

    "I think it's the ultimate sign of disrespect. We have troops dying for us," Land Park resident Mark Cohen said.

    "(I'm) annoyed and disgusted. I think if this is the way someone feels they can find a better way to vent their opinions," Land Park resident Pete Miles said.

    The homeowners behind the controversy are Steve and Virginia Pearcy. They released a statement saying, "There will always be people who are offended by political speech, and the most important forum of all ... is one's own residence. The First Amendment is meaningless unless dissent is allowed."


    Some neighbors agree.

    "Even if you don't agree with it, he has the right to state his opinion. I don't find it offensive at all," Land Park resident Cece Williams said.

    The tension in the neighborhood has escalated into more than just a political feud.

    The matter has been reported to the police department and to the city attorney. The city council has even heard about it, but says they can't solve the problem.

    "Unfortunately or fortunately this is protected speech by the First Amendment ... so there is nothing we can do about it," Sacramento City Councilman Rob Fong said.

    KCRA 3 received a call late Wednesday morning from the homeowner saying that a group of people had torn down the display. He said that what he did was not illegal, but what was done by the people who removed the display was.

    http://www.thekcrachannel.com/news/4180042/detail.html
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  2. 39 Comments

  3. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I am vehemently opposed to this occupation, but this is WAY over the top and disgusting, in my book.
  4. by   Tweety
    It got people's attention didn't it? It's kind of like flag burning I guess, not illegal but very offensive to some. This doesn't bother me as much as flag burning does. In fact, this time Deb and I disagree, I'm not bothered by it at all. What's disgusting is that it's true.

    The idea that to oppose the war is disrespectful to the troops because they are dying for us, doesn't phase me a bit. I'm still opoosed to the war and I'm patriotic, love this country and love the troops and pray for their success.
  5. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    "I think it's the ultimate sign of disrespect"
    I agree with the above statement.

    But i'm getting really sick and tired of people doing disgusting crap like this and throwing the words "First Amendment" in people's faces as an excuse to do it.

    The way that person chose to express their right to "Free Speech" offended me. Had this person made a likeliness of GWB and put a noose around it, i probably wouldn't be as offended by it.
    Last edit by Marie_LPN, RN on Feb 9, '05
  6. by   Spidey's mom
    I also think it is disrespectful.

    And what about those folks who have family members who committed suicide by hanging. What a great thing to drive upon.

    I think they could have found another way to protest.

    Even though it is legal, it is hurtful.

    steph
  7. by   SKM-NURSIEPOOH
    Quote from marie_lpn
    ... had this person made a likeliness of gwb and put a noose around it, i probably wouldn't be as offended by it.
    heck....if they had of done that....they'd be sooooooo far down in some jail right now....locked-up for terroristic acts...lol !!! funny that is.......it's sort of a double standard isn't it?

    i certainly don't agree with these people's choice of protest...if that's what they call it due to the sensitivity aspect...but do understand their frustrations/sentiment none the less. way too many people are dying for this so-called war against terriorism....& for what? just how many more young soldiers, middle aged reservists, & in some cases, grandparent reservists will have to die, lose their livelihood, go into debt, remained on duty indifferently via a back door draft before we citizens do something? i know the display was drastic...but drastic times & n' all that .

    take me for example, i've sign-up with the army reserves back in march of '96. i was injured in an automobile accident back in nov of '01 & was scheduled to finish my contract by march '04. uncle sam deem me unfit for duty & decided to medically discharge me from their service june '03. i didn't receive the official orders until after completing the july's drill. guess what happened....they paid me for the july's drill only to take it back cause the effective date on orders i'd eventually received were for 30 june 2003. i had to pay the army back for the time i actually worked!!!! and that's not the have of it ~ i haven't even received my dd214 (official separation papers yet)!!! but did received orders that placed me in the retired reserves.......that means that they can still call me back if they got around to my name on that list again!!! i've been told that uncle sam would make provisions for me if i wasn't able to fulfill certain physical criteria because i'm too valuable.

    cheers!
    moe
  8. by   BeachNurse
    Moe I personally feel that if people did not expect to serve during wartime then they should never have signed up for the military. Once you join, you are in it for the long haul, war or no war. I believe that there are people who go into the miltary knowing that they might have to go to war at some point, and they are willing to make the sacrifices involved.
  9. by   SKM-NURSIEPOOH
    Quote from 3rdshiftguy
    it got people's attention didn't it? it's kind of like flag burning i guess, not illegal but very offensive to some...
    this also remind me of whenever some people choose to display highly sensitive materials on their property & tell the rest of us to either like it or simply look the other way.

    sensitive items like swastikas, neo-nazi paraphernalia, & confederate flags/symbols are highly offensive to many...but those folks are told to just get over it cuz it's only materials....only things of history (even perhaps their familial history which is...in their mind...something to take pride in/of)....that the only way those things will hurt is to allow them too. i seen & in fact was involved in a few such heated threads about this very thing right here on allnurses.com in the past. i can't tell you how surprise i was when it came to some of the opinions & views read regarding sensitive topics. as bad as some of those messages were...some people actually set-out to disrupt, light a fire under, & ruffle feathers of those who were sensitive delibertly...just because they saw how some respond. there was a few who actually started heated threads by making them appear to be questions that needed clarifications on. so the question is put-out...people respond honestly (some with & some without tact) which cause riffs among the posters here. these sort of threads would go on for ages...25, 30, 35 pages! the people who originally started such threads sat back & watch the fireworks...then :angryfire feigned innocence . i couldn't believe how many would go along with others simply because they weren't affected by the topic at hand, was within a certain clique, or simply didn't care to listen to those who were affected...but am quite surprise to find some of those very same individuals respond here with disappointed or disgusted responses. i don't understand how they could go along with the whole *it's their right to display the confederate flag* bit then....yet are sooooo against this display of dissension now. what double standards :angryfire....such...oh never mind.

    people who say that sensitive people such just *get over it* or *look the other way* obviously either don't understand or they simply don't care about the ramifications that these types of symbols hold for others...some display these things purposefully. the constitution has made it possible for these individuals or groups to publicly display their...let's just say...sensitive items as a right of free speech & there's not a damn thing anyone of us can do about it until another amendment is applied to the first amendment. and we all know that that's not happening anytime soon :angryfire....no matter how poor in taste, disruptive, or toxic those messages are.

    yup....there's double standards no matter what.

    cheers!
    moe
  10. by   SKM-NURSIEPOOH
    Quote from beachnurse
    moe i personally feel that if people did not expect to serve during wartime then they should never have signed up for the military. once you join, you are in it for the long haul, war or no war. i believe that there are people who go into the military knowing that they might have to go to war at some point, and they are willing to make the sacrifices involved.
    i don't have a problem with people signing up & having to sacrifice to go to war when it's absolutely necessary. however, in this case, not only is it not necessary, it's a crock of ... ~ well...you get the picture.

    i don't mind serving my country when it's boarders are threaten...but do go after the right people & not after a country that had absolutely no hand in the attack on us in '01...this to me is unacceptable! i don't want to hear about how bad sh was either cuz there are still bad men out there all over...but we're not trying to stop them are we...but i've digressed. getting back to the topic of soldiers...i also feel that back-door drafting is illegal...soldiers...particularly reservists are called to duty beyond their contracted commitments & sent on numerous deadly tours of duty...why? only to have benefits withdrawn or not followed through. i'll give you another thing that happened to me that's happening all over. as part of the contract to serve, soldiers are guaranteed the montgomery gi bill & tuition reimbursements. the recruiters don't tell the young folks that they have to literally pay for their college first & then start receiving their gi bill benefits...only contingent upon their unit's administrator's signature. they also don't tell them that they have to actually have to wait one solid year before they can file for any type of reimbursement. in my case, my unit administer (ua) transfered to another unit & we were without for over a year. i wasn't able to file for my reimbursements during the break...i tried going though other support units as well as our regional command. i got nothing but red tape. then when we finally did get another ua, she filed my paperwork alright...filed it right inside some desk drawers. i kept inquiring about my payment & was repeatedly put off. i inquired with the proper depts & they swear they had never received my paperwork. well lord 'n behold...this ua left us too approx one year after arriving & one of the officers found my filed paperwork stuffed inside a drawer :angryfire !!! i couldn't even submit that paperwork as it passed the cut-off date for that period. shortly after that incident, i was injured in the car accident & wasn't permitted to submit for payment. now...i'm not saying everyone will suffer my fate...but it's more common than not & *this* is unacceptable to me! why should soldiers have to keep their end of the bargain when uncle sam often doesn't?

    then gwb has rolled back war-time pay because he officially declared *mission accomplished* months ago...yet these same soldiers are working in areas that are hazardous & for more time than what the original design of the reserve spells out. it's one thing to send the active duty soldiers cause that's *is* their jobs....but it's a totally other thing to send predominately reservists to fight a war (one that was officially deemed over mind you) full-time!!!

    then there's the little matter of gwb wanting to cut veterans' future benefits....just how low can one man go?

    moe
    Last edit by SKM-NURSIEPOOH on Feb 9, '05
  11. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Well as a military spouse, seeing such a horrid thing would be very demoralizing to me. Yes, I hate this war/occupation with every fiber of my being. But, I think it was a horrible, distasteful and insensitive thing to do. Legal? Yes sure, but very wrong.
  12. by   Roy Fokker
    It's legal but I wonder if said couple would have done the same after burying their son who was killed in Iraq...
  13. by   SmilingBluEyes
    well that would be my point, roy. To me it is not even CLOSE to the same as flag-burning.....it's reprehensible.
  14. by   VivaLasViejas
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    Well as a military spouse, seeing such a horrid thing would be very demoralizing to me. Yes, I hate this war/occupation with every fiber of my being. But, I think it was a horrible, distasteful and insensitive thing to do. Legal? Yes sure, but very wrong.
    As a military mom, I'm with Deb on this one. Just because something is legal, doesn't necessarily make it right, and even though I too have been against the war from the outset, this display is WAY over the top. :angryfire

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