Serious thoughts and questions.......

  1. One of my favorite sayings is that

    *Life is too serious, to take so seriously.*
    and I do believe this.....hence my 'warped' sense of humour
    but lately I have taken another tact when I 'talk to myself'
    or hear on the threads.......or in "real world"
    maybe sometimes we need to be a bit more serious..........
    there is a place for humour.....but there is a place for the other sides or multiple sides........or we lose perspective.....

    Will try to come out of my own wandering mind to make micro's point.
    >>>>> With all the tragedy and pain regarding *our children in today's society*
    Do we too often as adults.....not think anything wrong to be flippant about sex, sexuality, taboo subjects, etc. that can be misconstrued by our children, and to those strange perverted minds that do damage to our children.
    Just because I am an adult and I CAN, does that mean that I should. And I am not a prude, so please do not put me there, but........................
    And in our society, our news media, movies, tv shows, magazines and just about everywhere inundates us with these images........
    So when is it okay to just keep on joking about it, talking about it and being totally flippant about it.................

    >>>>>Tolerance vs Intolerance...........
    I am not even talking about the further term of acceptance, but just of tolerance..........
    I wish to see it happen more, but actually seem to see it happen less.......or maybe that is just my perspective.........
    I for one am glad that there is only one MICRO.........ya'all wouldn't know what to do with two.........
    but I will end that as it was heading off to the humour side of micro and right now.....that is not where micro is at........
    I thank goodness for the differences in this world. I have always been different......first by not a choice, but today I make it a choice, because I do not like .........
    Just go along to be part of the crowd.......it doesn't work for me anyway.........
    but I do digress........am truly looking at this issue in a far wider circle than just lil' mic here.............


    >>>>>much more on my mind than the above, but that is for my first book........and also ya'all would get lost in micro's mind..................
    you have to read between the ......... and connect on the lines.............

    just thoughts and opinions.....
    humble though they are.......
    micro just contemplatin' the nature of the *beast*
    micro's wisdom from afar
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  3. by   LasVegasRN
    Online, I have a creative outlet. I can be completely ridiculous and wacky to the point of scaring off Rusty :chuckle, laugh and be silly letting my mind just run rampant.
    Offline, I am a nurse case manager, utilization reviewer, daughter, mother, and friend (not in order of importance!). Today's world is a dangerous place. There is no longer true censoring of television, in my opinion. Sex in film, tv, radio, and advertising has become the rule, rather than the exception. Yes, our society is decaying morally, and now, more important than ever, we must take responsbility for molding our children. Why? Because predators are on the loose. It seems like it is open season for child hunting. Beware, be watchful, be vigilant.

    It's hard for me to be serious here, because this is my outlet. Every now and then I'll focus and post on something serious, but, life has become more of a challenge now. Thank goodness for the serious thinkers - they are needed. For now, I'll frolic in play land and do some thinking only when I have to.
  4. by   eltrip
    Hey, Micro!
    Could what you're talking about be the difference between liberty and license? We have the liberty to live as we choose. However, many this interpret this as the license to behave irresponsibly (at best)or even abominably (at worst).

    Just because I'm old enough to choose to drink alcohol until I'm too drunk to sit up, does it mean that I should? This is where responsibility and even wisdom come into play. The emphasis has, over the past 30-40 years, been on the individual's choice. Responsibility has not been emphasized in our society. "Do it because it feels good" was a mantra of our society for quite some time. In some circles it continues to this day. Love, commitment, resposnsiblity had nothing to do with feeling good for that ephemeral moment that so many strove to gain.

    Just because I CAN do something, does it mean that I SHOULD do it? I don't let anyone "should" on me...and I'm glad that you don't either, Micro!
  5. by   micro
    No, not exactly liberty and license, but thanks eltrip.......for the serious thought.......

    And LVrn, you know i love your posts and I can be as silly as the next person, maybe more..........boss vegas.....micro fourth tent in the back.....
    you are much like I..........

    What at this tact, that I am typing about here is what we show our world.........our public face and our private face. Also far more than us individually, but how as a society or a group, we show ourselves..............
    How I choose to live my life.....is indeed still my choice....for myself to be comfortable with only.........
    But as part of this earth's population, what responsibility do I have for the greater good...............
    'the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one'

    my private face may say.........
    ' the needs of the one, outweigh the needs of the many'

    gotta run and put on my nursing face..........
    micro
  6. by   micro
    just reiterating my initial question to the threaders here......
    guess, yes, micro has been questioning the
    "nature of the beast".........
    and i apologize as I will yet again try to come out of my wandering mind to ask this serious question again.................

    after talking with a friend in PM, think it is worth seeing if anyothers have thoughts on
    yes, eltrip.....your reply is actually right on....micro's first read of it was off.....
    your take of liberty and license is exactly what I am talking about........
    it is just in the semantics or pedantics of communication that we must listen.....sorry micro didn't 'listen' first read through.....
    (and please any forgive micro here, if not correct use of the words semantics and pedantics is correct).....

    1) have we lost track when it is okay to be silly and when to be serious?
    -------------and the why of it..........
    and again, please I restate, I am not a prude, but just a very serious person..........except when I am not........:-/


    2) and maybe the question of respect vs disrespect is a never ending question.....
    so whatever happened to just simple tolerance..........
    --------oh, yes tolerance vs intolerance.........

    for our advanced world.....we just seem to have not come far ............. or am i seeing this through a *rose darkly*

    ending with what i typed below may or may not make sense to any of you, but to me it does.....i love and live in music......as a listener and singer.....(privately----the singer part)
    when I get serious.....music means even more to me....so sharing a part of my private face with you all..........


    ---------I guess I live in the music of my past......
    and to end tonight.....and the above.......

    ***Whisper Words of Wisdom.......let it be............ ***

    ****I've looked at life from both sides now, from give and take and still somehow.....it's life's illusions I recall, I really don't know life at all***

    micro

    any takers......or is micro the only one seriously contemplating the nature of the *beast*

    oh, yes for reference......

    when micro refers to beast........

    Speaks of a Don Henley song........and album.....
    "Building The Perfect Beast"
  7. by   indeed
    I just got home from work...will think/dream on this and get back to you but suffice to say...beastly.

    Indeed.
  8. by   adrienurse
    Wow Micro, you're taxing my brain. Too early/late in the day for profound thinking.

    I do enjoy having the privilage of living in an adult only home. For this reason, I only have to censor what I say and what I do when I am work. If I had a child or children, hell yes, I would want to shelter them. There is entirely too much sex (don't even get me started on the violence) in our popculture. Children are exposed to it to the point that I think they are desensitized before they really figure out the meaning. One example is a popular lingeree (can't spell this am) outlet here in Canada has recently opened stores selling clothing for the 8-15 crowd. Isn't that sick!! It's too easy to blame Britney Speers. But when stores actually start selling skimpy "sexy" clothing to prepubescent girls there is something really wrong.
  9. by   eltrip
    Thought that I'd try to flesh-out my idea of liberty vs. license. I liken it to the explanation about freedom of speech, as guarenteed by the 1st ammendment to the U.S. Constitution. I have the liberty (freedom) to say whatever I wish, however, I do not have the license to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater. It would be irresponsible.

    Another example. I'm old enough to go to an R-rated movie. I can bring my 5 -year old in with me, if I choose. However, does this mean that I should ? Would that be what is best for my child? Responsiblity & judgement come into play. I've stopped watching most prime-time shows at 8pm for this reason alone. Who wants to expose a 5-year old to the language & topics on Friends (just one of many examples)? I believe that our society has gone way too far, exploiting our liberty with license.

    As for the questions of respect and tolerance, well, I have found that I will respect someone's right to their beliefs, lifestyle, point of view, etc.. However, I find it difficult, if not nearly impossible, to tolerate and show tolerance to one who displays bigotry and prejudice toward those like him/her...or toward one who harms children. Those are my "lines in the sand," pedantic as they may be.

    In these more than strained times, it is important to listen to viewpoints that are different than our own. It is equally important to be tolerant of one another and show respect to one another as much as is possible. None of us knows when we may hold a minority opinion...and if those in the minority are too frightened to speak, what good is the first ammendment?

    Thanks, micro, for bumping this back up. A timely topic.

    Joy
  10. by   shygirl
    Micro,

    I am having a hard time understanding what you are saying. I understand about the private vs. public face. Yes we all have the different masks that we wear. We are emotional chameleons.
    We have to be or else we wouldn't get along with anyone else! Hahahahah. At any rate, I wish I could offer more, but it is way over my head!
    Peace be with you, Shygirl
  11. by   JailRN
    Micro

    would have to agree, at work, I'm a witch, controling and demanding that the day goes in the best medical interrest of the inmates.

    In my personal life, I'm very flexible, as far from a prude as one could be, UNLESS we're talking about my lkids, Then I sound just like my mother, my house, my rules, and Tony Soprano "It may be 2002 out there, but in here, it's 1952. " I'm very protective about what my sons watch, play, music they listen to, etc. I believe people have the right to do what they please, but not in front of my children or in my house. Need I say how I feel about those who harm children?? We won't go there. I don't think too many of us know life at all. But, like I tell the boys, this isn't a dress rehersal. Do what you will, but remember, there are consequences for actions.'
  12. by   nursegoodguy
    Originally posted by LasVegasRN
    Online, I have a creative outlet. I can be completely ridiculous and wacky to the point of scaring off Rusty :chuckle, laugh and be silly letting my mind just run rampant.
    Offline, I am a nurse case manager, utilization reviewer, daughter, mother, and friend (not in order of importance!). Today's world is a dangerous place. There is no longer true censoring of television, in my opinion. Sex in film, tv, radio, and advertising has become the rule, rather than the exception. Yes, our society is decaying morally, and now, more important than ever, we must take responsbility for molding our children. Why? Because predators are on the loose. It seems like it is open season for child hunting. Beware, be watchful, be vigilant.

    It's hard for me to be serious here, because this is my outlet. Every now and then I'll focus and post on something serious, but, life has become more of a challenge now. Thank goodness for the serious thinkers - they are needed. For now, I'll frolic in play land and do some thinking only when I have to.
    I don't have to read any further posts, (but I will) to know that I totally agree with Vegas here! Could not have said it better! Life can present us with great challenges and I for one get WAY tired of it all! When I found this board I was looking for a place that I could vent occasionally about 'nursing'... well little did I know that I'd meet so many wonderful people that I would care about... people that I want to know if they're ok and whats going on in their offline world... sometimes it is a frustrating experience to want to be able to help and be limited to a keyboard... I would have loved to be there to hold a cool cloth to Emma's forehead and read her a fun little book, to have won the lottery and bought shygirl her bed set, to have driven ww to her appt just to be sure she made it there ok, to have been there with dennie and been the one to get out of the car to investigate the scene before church, to cheer on Renee during her daughters 26th and yes, to have posed as the pizza delivery man when heather had to have dinner with the mil! And so many more situations that I would've loved to gotten into to help my friends out but...
    I only have a keyboard and so most of the time it will be humor....
  13. by   kelligrl
    Holy cow, early for deep thought, but here goes...

    I think we (as a nation, world, people) have lost the art of common sense (Except for all of us on this board ). People just DO, they don't THINK first. Like, I already have five kids I can't support, maybe I shouldn't have another? Should my daughter own and listen to the CD where F**k is every other word, and women are there only for BJ's??? Does my 4 year old need to be in an R rated movie with me at 9 at night?

    I could keep going...four words...USE YOUR FREAKIN' HEAD!!!

    No, you shouldn't do any of those things....and yet we see it every day, and some people don't see anything wrong with it...They all make my head hurt...
  14. by   live4today
    Originally posted by eltrip
    Thought that I'd try to flesh-out my idea of liberty vs. license. I liken it to the explanation about freedom of speech, as guarenteed by the 1st ammendment to the U.S. Constitution. I have the liberty (freedom) to say whatever I wish, however, I do not have the license to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater. It would be irresponsible.

    Another example. I'm old enough to go to an R-rated movie. I can bring my 5 -year old in with me, if I choose. However, does this mean that I should ? Would that be what is best for my child? Responsiblity & judgement come into play. I've stopped watching most prime-time shows at 8pm for this reason alone. Who wants to expose a 5-year old to the language & topics on Friends (just one of many examples)? I believe that our society has gone way too far, exploiting our liberty with license.

    As for the questions of respect and tolerance, well, I have found that I will respect someone's right to their beliefs, lifestyle, point of view, etc.. However, I find it difficult, if not nearly impossible, to tolerate and show tolerance to one who displays bigotry and prejudice toward those like him/her...or toward one who harms children. Those are my "lines in the sand," pedantic as they may be.

    In these more than strained times, it is important to listen to viewpoints that are different than our own. It is equally important to be tolerant of one another and show respect to one another as much as is possible. None of us knows when we may hold a minority opinion...and if those in the minority are too frightened to speak, what good is the first ammendment?

    Thanks, micro, for bumping this back up. A timely topic.

    Joy
    My sentiments exactly, eltrip! :kiss Shalom to you, too!

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