Read this and ponder...

  1. i have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. i know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. and judging by the past, i wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the british ministry(iraq ) for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the house. is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? let us not deceive ourselves, sir. these are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings(dictators) resort. i ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? has great britain(iraq ) any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? no, sir, she has none. they are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. they are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the british (iraq) ministry have been so long forging. and what have we to oppose to them? shall we try argument? sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. have we anything new to offer upon the subject? nothing. we have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? what terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? let us not, i beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. we have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne(united nations ), and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and parliament. our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne(united nations) ! in vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. there is no longer any room for hope. if we wish to be free-- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending--if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained--we must fight! i repeat it, sir, we must fight! an appeal to arms and to the god of hosts is all that is left us!



    this is part of the give me liberty or give me death speech given by patrick henry on march 23, 1775. it still stands now as it stood then. the similarities are erie to say the least.

    think of what our forefathers had to do then and think now that we must do no less than what they did. give a people thier freedom.

    dave
    (let the flames begin)
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  2. 14 Comments

  3. by   Q.
    No flames here, Dave.

    Very thought-provoking post.
  4. by   Mattigan
    Thank you for posting this. I printed it out alot of people need to see this.
  5. by   eltrip
    Dave,
    I wondered if that was Patrick Henry's writing! I am amazed at how true his words ring today. Thanks for the post.
  6. by   rncountry
    Thought provoking indeed. So many of the founding fathers had an ability to use soaring language, it is a delight to simply read it.
  7. by   CATHYW
    Thanks for posting. Very good!
  8. by   Estella
    TS Eliot would find this fascinating, since he was a firm believer that no thought is ever original, that every writing, every event is simply a 'rewrite' of something that has gone on before.

    Thank you for finding this: a very relevant message for now, and all time.
  9. by   Dplear
    I think it is time to revive this thread for a bit....read my original post and you will see it rings sooooooo true.

    Dave
  10. by   nursenoelle
    Thank You for bringing this back Dave. Very moving.
  11. by   RNonsense
    No flames here. Thought provoking indeed. Thanks!
  12. by   fergus51
    I don't know. I am hearing that comparison, then in the next minute a comparison of us to the British Empire, then a comparison to Churchill, then a comparison to Vietnam. I'd be able to learn more about how history is repeating itself if I knew which part we were repeating.
  13. by   Mkue
    Anthrax suspension. The inspectors have a "strong presumption" that the Iraqis did not destroy 10,000 litres of liquid anthrax suspension. They want to see either the remaining stocks or evidence for its destruction, as well as an explanation for why inspectors found weapons-strain anthrax at a site where Iraq said no production took place.
    www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993485

    another scary thought

  14. by   JedsMom
    Excellent post and so timely for today. No flames here either.

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