Potty training for.....infants????

  1. Not sure what I think about this article...anyone else?

    Evansville IN, Courier & Press....

    Modern parents get the straight poop on infant potty training
    By SUSAN GLAIRON Scripps Howard News Service
    March 10, 2003

    Connor Kelley is well on his way to being potty trained. When prompted, he does his business in the family's toilet. He is only 4 months old. His parents started teaching him just three weeks after he was born.

    Most people shake their heads in disbelief when they hear the straight poop about Connor, parents Tom Kelley, 35, and Touran Talebi, 33 admit. But after offering a quick demonstration, the parents have won the admiration of relatives and peers: People see the virtues of holding a baby over a toilet instead of scrubbing smelly cloth diapers or suffering from disposable diaper guilt, they say.

    Kelley and Talebi say they are not high-pressure parents. Instead, they say they are doing what most of the world does - watching their baby for bodily signs, noting when he is most likely to go, and then providing him with the opportunity.

    "We try to make it fun," Kelley says. "If he messes himself up, it's no big deal."

    Clearly, Kelley and Talebi are in the minority in the United States. But the word about infant toilet training is getting out. Parents trade tips on the Internet, in chat groups with names like "elimination communication," and several books have been published on the topic.

    The method, sometimes referred to as "infant pottying" or "infant potty training," has been "around forever," says Laurie Boucke, author of "Infant Potty Basics" (White/Boucke Publishing: $13), and an infant pottying advocate for 24 years. It's still regularly used in countries like Vietnam, India and others where washing machines and disposable diapers are not readily available.

    Early toileting advocates say there are many reasons to adapt infant pottying to Western countries. It promotes parent/child bonding, it is environmentally kind, saving trees, water and landfill space, and it eliminates diaper rash.

    Because babies are more adaptable than their toddler peers, starting early makes toilet training easier, and typically much faster, they say. Babies as young as 6 months old have been known to crawl to the potty, Boucke says. Here's how it works:

    Mothers and fathers watch for telltale signals, such as kicking, to determine when baby has to go. They either place a bucket or pan under the infant, or securely situate a baby over a sink, potty or toilet. Parents often make an encouraging sound, "pssss," to let the child know it's time to go.

    Most Western parents still use diapers, just in case. But, they say, they go through a lot fewer of them than they would otherwise. A few eschew them altogether. (For them, Boucke recommends covering furniture with plastic, wearing clothes they can spare, and budgeting extra for carpet cleaning.)

    Although once popular in this country, infant potty training lost favor in the 1950s, after pediatrician Benjamin Spock, who encouraged more permissive parenting, began publishing books.

    In the early 1960s, author and pediatrician T. Berry Brazelton encouraged parents to wait until their children were 24 to 30 months old before beginning potty training. Adding to the method's demise: the modern washing machine and the explosion of the disposable diaper industry, Boucke says.

    "Parents fear it, or think it sounds ridiculous and impossible," Boucke says. "Our main hurdle is that people in this country have been brainwashed to think this is cruelty."

    But Boucke claims the method is simple and satisfying. The method works because children love to interact and please their parents, she says. The child is never coerced and if he has an accident, it's no big deal.
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  2. 39 Comments

  3. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
  4. by   deespoohbear
    Heather, I take it from your post that you don't agree with the article. Glad to see I am not the only one who thinks that way.

    PS-You must be getting ready to go to work.....
  5. by   nakitamoon
    ,,,,, they are only tiny babies for such a short period of time,,,,, ??? think that i'd rather change diapers,,,, and spend time bonding by holding,,, playing,,,, talk,,,, touch,,,,, not spending time,,, holding them over a toilet,,, time for that later on,,,,,,, just imho,,,,, ~kitamoon,,,,,
  6. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Doesn't that just seem.... I dunno. Holding your baby at arms length over the toilet. It's not the warmest of moments, and not one I'd like to have stored in my memory bank of warm fuzzy parenting moments.

    And while it's different, I think that in this day and age, our kids are growing up so fast. Why not let them take their time with some things like potty training for god's sake?

    Heather
  7. by   deespoohbear
    Originally posted by OBNURSEHEATHER
    And while it's different, I think that in this day and age, our kids are growing up so fast. Why not let them take their time with some things like potty training for god's sake?

    Heather
    Agreed....kids need to be kids...not miniature adults....This article just struck me as really trying to push the envelope...heck 4 months of age...a lot of babies are still being breastfed or receiving formula...seems strange to put the kid over the potty...I think I read in there that someone even mentioned the sink....YUCK!!! How sanitary can that be? I think I would rather have to clean the baby's bottom than try and sanitize that sink....I ought to mention that to our Infection Control nurse...she would have a conniption fit for a month...
  8. by   ayemmeff
    That's not training, that's just catching it in something other than a nappy(diaper)!!!!!
  9. by   semstr
    can this kid sit already? I find it pretty sick to do this to a baby.
  10. by   emily_mom
    I think this is pretty warped.....

    Crawling at 6 months to the toilet? Don't we do everything in our power to keep them away from toilets so they don't fall in headfirst?

    It sounds more like training the parents than the kids.
  11. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Don't you think though that this kind of behavior is only typical of the mid 30's primips? That need to be in control of every detail, have a rigid schedule, etc. Have any of my OB counterparts noticed that trend?

    Heather
  12. by   sbic56
    Must be nice to have that kind of time on your hands to be able to sit around and watch for that grimace.
  13. by   Lausana
    So they don't use diapers? I sure hope the baby doesn't get oh I don't know, DIARRHEA!!

    It's definitely not "training" it's just catching (if you're lucky to catch) ...not to mention how awful it would feel to dangle a 4 month over the toilet or sink? <shaking head>
  14. by   jdomep
    The sweet little baby isn't trained the mommy is

    It was hard enough for me to nurse my boys - when doing 6 other things - let alone holding them over the potty 20x/day.

    I just got #4 trained at almost 3 and I am thrilled I have had boys in diapers for 7-1/2 years NON STOP and we are done.
    I am thinking they are missing out on the fun of bribbing someone to go to the potty with really cool Spiderman Underwear LOL

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