Pentagon Angered By Photos of War Dead

  1. well, of course they are......


    http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20040423/d824geno0.html


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    by randall chase



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    dover, del. (ap) - photographs of flag-draped coffins bearing american casualties from iraq should not have been made public under a pentagon policy prohibiting media coverage of human remains, officials said.

    "quite frankly, we don't want the remains of our service members who have made the ultimate sacrifice to be the subject of any kind of attention that is unwarranted or undignified," said john molino, a deputy undersecretary of defense.

    a web site published dozens of photographs of american war dead arriving at the nation's largest military mortuary, prompting the pentagon to order an information clampdown thursday. pentagon spokesman lt. col. gary keck said release of the photos appears to be in conflict with policy.

    the photographs were released last week to first amendment activist russ kick, who had filed a freedom of information act request to receive the images. air force officials initially denied the request but decided to release the photos after kick appealed their decision.

    after kick posted more than 350 photographs on his web site, the defense department barred the further release of the photographs to media outlets.

    "they're not happy with the release of the photos," dover air force base spokesman col. jon anderson said.

    the photos were taken at the dover base - home to the mortuary - and most of the images are of flag-draped coffins.

    at a rally in dover last month, war protesters criticized president bush for continuing the practice of previous administrations of not allowing the public or media to witness the arrival of remains at the base.

    "we need to stop hiding the deaths of our young; we need to be open about their deaths," said jane bright of west hills, calif., whose 24-year-old son, evan ashcraft, was killed in combat in july.

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    telephone and e-mail messages to kick were not immediately returned thursday.

    the pentagon move came a day after a cargo worker was fired by a military contractor after her photograph of flag-draped coffins bearing the remains of u.s. soldiers was published on the front page of sunday editions of the seattle times.

    tami silicio, 50, was fired by maytag aircraft corp. on wednesday after military officials raised concerns about the photograph taken in kuwait, said william l. silva, maytag president.

    silicio took the photograph in a cargo plane about to depart from kuwait international airport earlier this month. she sent the photo to a stateside friend who provided it to the newspaper, which then obtained permission from silicio to publish it.

    in a telephone interview from kuwait, silicio said friday on abc's "good morning america" that she agreed to the photo's publication because family members of casualties should see that the remains are treated carefully and with respect. "i think if the administration were more sympathetic, they would see that this is a positive thing," she said. family members "want to see how our loved ones, how our heroes are being taking care of and how they get home."

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  2. 17 Comments

  3. by   elkpark
    Heaven forbid we should be reminded of the real cost of Shrub's dirty, pointless little war ... :uhoh21:
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Good question.....why all the fervor? there are no dead bodies in these pictures, only flag-draped coffins. What is all the fuss about? ........this is NOT a show of disrespect of voyeurism!!!!!!!! Why FIRE the guy over this?????? I think elkpark hit on it.

    I think we ought have BANNER coverage each and EVERY time war dead arrive on our soil.....a real in-color picture of the cost of this "occupation" in Iraq. We need to be reminded EVERY day what it's costing us.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Apr 23, '04
  5. by   2ndCareerRN
    Here are some posts made about the contractor who also took some pictures, and was fired for doing it. She has had her 15 minutes of fame, has made her money, and IMO can now fade into obscurity.

    The posts show the difference in perceptions and just how deep the chasm is between the two ends of the political spectrum.

    http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showth...hreadid=178560

    bob
  6. by   molecule
    the photographer is not the story: the deaths are. the pictures are respectful and the loss real, why hide and pretend otherwise? military families are starting to speak out, will the Pentagon try to hide them away?
  7. by   pickledpepperRN
    Didn't the Bush campaign run an ad with a picture of a flag draped coffin? It was regarding 9/11.
  8. by   Ted
    Quote from spacenurse
    Didn't the Bush campaign run an ad with a picture of a flag draped coffin? It was regarding 9/11.
    I believe so. Talk about blatent hypocricy.

    :stone
  9. by   fergus51
    Bush's ad was of a firefighter's coffin, not a soldier's.

    Personally, I do think this person should have been fired. It was against the rules and she knew it. I actually think the pictures are a piece of history and should be shown. It honors the sacrifice that these young men and women have made, but it was against policy so I can't defend this woman.
  10. by   Ted
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    I think we ought have BANNER coverage each and EVERY time war dead arrive on our soil.....a real in-color picture of the cost of this "occupation" in Iraq. We need to be reminded EVERY day what it's costing us.
    I agree. . .

    :stone
  11. by   Ted
    Quote from fergus51
    Bush's ad was of a firefighter's coffin, not a soldier's.

    Personally, I do think this person should have been fired. It was against the rules and she knew it. I actually think the pictures are a piece of history and should be shown. It honors the sacrifice that these young men and women have made, but it was against policy so I can't defend this woman.
    Fired based on "the policy"?? Maybe. But in this case, the governmental policy is blatent censorship. I hope it's broken more or that it's changed as it should be. . .

    THE main "Bush Administration" rationale for this censorship is for "respect" of the soldiers' families. They don't want the families upset, I guess, seeing coffins of dead soldiers. YET the Bush administration will place an advertisment showing the coffin of a firefighter. For political gain, no less! This is nothing short of blatent hypocricy towards one's own policy.

    First off, it angers me that such censorship exists. We need to be reminded of the cost of any war at any time. Hiding this particular cost of war under the guise of "respect" is shameful to say the least. Cowardly and "two faced" at best.

    Finally. The blatent hypocricy towards one's own rationale speaks for itself. And it angers me even more that this administration could be so stupid to be so obviously hypocritical. It's "O. K." to have a campaing ad showing a coffin of a fallen firefighter. (Where's the respectful consideration towards the firefighters' families here???) But Don't show the fallen soldiers killed in a war. Don't want to upset the families.


    UGH!!!!

    Last edit by Ted on Apr 23, '04
  12. by   fergus51
    Quote from efiebke
    Fired based on "the policy"?? Maybe. But in this case, the governmental policy is blatent censorship. I hope it's broken more or that it's changed as it should be. . .
    I do personally disagree with the policy. I think these photos show the price soldiers pay for our country and that is touching and beautiful and should be honored by all of us.

    But, I don't get to go to work and ignore or change policy because I don't agree with it, then whine when I get fired.
  13. by   jnette
    Quote from efiebke
    Fired based on "the policy"?? Maybe. But in this case, the governmental policy is blatent censorship. I hope it's broken more or that it's changed as it should be. . .

    I have to agree. Let's be open and honest about it ALL. :stone
  14. by   duckboy20
    I personnally think that the pictures look respectful. However I think it is sad that people are making money over taking pictures of our dead loved ones. Maybe it is just me. However, we also need to be respectful to the military families who have lost their loved ones. There may not be a name on that coffin but I imagine everytime they see a coffin like that it haunts them. We definately need to be reminded of the sacrifice, just need to respect the families at the same time.

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