Parade of U.S. dead (Dover Air Force Base) pictures

  1. A lot of the sites where you could see the vast number of American flag draped coffins--which is really the only way you can comprehend the daily body count--have been shut down. It seems as it the powers that be seem to think that if we don't see it, then maybe we will think it isn't really happening. If we don't understand what is happening, then we can't demand that it be stopped--immediately.

    It's really happening. It needs to stop. Immediately. Time to cut our losses and get the he** out of there. Jihad is not something we have any experience or skill at doing. They, on the other hand, have hundreds of years of experience.

    Here's a site that has not been shut down yet. I have copied one picture--there are many.


    http://thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/

    Last edit by stevierae on May 16, '04
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  2. 27 Comments

  3. by   carcha
    Both Bush and Blair will go down as world leaders who have committed the biggest mistake certaintly since vietnam. They in their arrogance honestly believed that once they invaded IRAQ then everyone else like NATO would follow. They ignored advise, and these poor young men and women are paying for their mistake. I hope that all members of the forces both living and those killed in action who served in IRAQ get the recognition they deserve, ie a medal for bravery. Thats the least we owe them.
  4. by   teeituptom
    Tell me exactly what good is a posthumous medal going to do for anyone,

    things can best be served by getting our sons and daughters the he__o out of there
  5. by   gwenith
    Dpn't leave Howard out - we follow America into Vietnam to our regret and now we have followed into Iraq.

    Let us get out NOW.

    Before violence breeds more violence.
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    agree with Tom.
  7. by   nurseunderwater
    here's a link...not for the faint of heart.
    click on the one that says enemies of George...
    again, this is a graphic example of "co-lateral damage" a euphimism for what is really happening..

    http://www.gradis.net/xray.htm
  8. by   BBFRN
    Quote from nurseunderwater
    here's a link...not for the faint of heart.
    click on the one that says enemies of George...
    again, this is a graphic example of "co-lateral damage" a euphimism for what is really happening..

    http://www.gradis.net/xray.htm
    Nurseunderwater- you were right. These pics aren't for the faint of heart. I am utterly speechless (doesn't happen very often). How could we get involved in something like this? I actually cried when I saw these pics...very, very sad indeed.
  9. by   stevierae
    This joke is kind of lame, and it may be old, but I will post it anyway--

    Three guys, a Canadian, Osama Bin Laden and Uncle Sam are out walking together one day.

    They come across a lamp and a Genie pops out of it.

    "I will give each of you each one wish, that's three wishes total," says the Genie.

    The Canadian says, "I am a farmer, my dad was a farmer, and my son will also farm. I want the land to be forever fertile in Canada." With a blink of the Genie's eye, 'POOF' the land in Canada was forever made fertile for farming.

    Osama Bin Laden was amazed, so he said, "I want a wall around Afghanistan, so that no infidels, Jews or Americans can come into our precious country."

    Again, with a blink of the Genie's eye, 'POOF' there was a huge wall around Afghanistan.

    "Uncle Sam" (A former civil engineer), asks, "I'm very curious. Please tell me more about this wall."

    The Genie explains, "Well, it's about 15,000 feet high, 500 feet thick and completely surrounds the country; nothing can get in or out---virtually impenetrable."

    "Uncle Sam" says, "Fill it with water."
  10. by   SharonH, RN
    Quote from stevierae
    This joke is kind of lame, and it may be old, but I will post it anyway--

    Three guys, a Canadian, Osama Bin Laden and Uncle Sam are out walking together one day.

    They come across a lamp and a Genie pops out of it.

    "I will give each of you each one wish, that's three wishes total," says the Genie.

    The Canadian says, "I am a farmer, my dad was a farmer, and my son will also farm. I want the land to be forever fertile in Canada." With a blink of the Genie's eye, 'POOF' the land in Canada was forever made fertile for farming.

    Osama Bin Laden was amazed, so he said, "I want a wall around Afghanistan, so that no infidels, Jews or Americans can come into our precious country."

    Again, with a blink of the Genie's eye, 'POOF' there was a huge wall around Afghanistan.

    "Uncle Sam" (A former civil engineer), asks, "I'm very curious. Please tell me more about this wall."

    The Genie explains, "Well, it's about 15,000 feet high, 500 feet thick and completely surrounds the country; nothing can get in or out---virtually impenetrable."

    "Uncle Sam" says, "Fill it with water."

    Yes indeed, that was lame.
  11. by   stevierae
    i was trying to find the complete lyrics to a vietnam era song, circa 1972, by the temptations that goes:

    "knock on the door, there's a letter from the war
    saying "greetings! we want you!!"


    with a chorus that goes..

    "war! what is it good for! absolutely nothin'!

    and

    does anybody give a damn
    about the men in vietnam
    why don't we stop the war
    right now
    stop it, stop it, stop it...!"


    well, i haven't found them yet, but i came across a pretty interesting site; check it out:

    war! what is it good for? errol morris finds out with "fog of war"

    by anthony kaufman

    filmmaker errol morris (right) with the subject of his latest documentary former u.s. defense secretary robert mcnamara. photo by claire folger, courtesy of sony pictures classics.


    once you get errol morris going, he doesn't mince words. after the north american premiere of his latest film "the fog of war: eleven lessons from the life of robert s. mcnamara," morris explained to a toronto audience his theory of human nature: "we're f***ed."

    when i asked morris -- the luminary nonfiction filmmaker responsible for such landmark works as "gates of heaven" and "the thin blue line" -- to elucidate on his premise, he explains, "for all practical purposes, we have the same dna that we had 10,000 years ago. now let's look at our destructive capacities. it's a lot different being hit with a coconut than being hit with a hydrogen bomb. our destructive capacities in the last 100 years have increased millions upon millions fold, but our capacity to curb our aggressive impulses have not grown proportionally. does that auger well?"

    "fog of war" raises such issues, along with the usual morrisian laundry list of themes -- such as "how we know what we know and our illusions of certainty" -- through an investigation into the life of robert s. mcnamara, the former secretary of defense under the jfk and lbj administrations. if you're too young to remember mcnamara, he was one of the most hated men in the '60s, blamed for vietnam, called an arrogant and cold-hearted number-cruncher, and enemy #1 for both the american left and right. (but he also pioneered seatbelts.)"

    honestly, when i see what is happening now in iraq--and when i remember those years in vietnam..it's "like deja vu all over again." will we ever learn not to repeat the stupid mistakes we made in the past??!!!"
    Last edit by stevierae on May 16, '04
  12. by   pickledpepperRN
    Is this it?

    War! huh-yeah
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing
    Uh-huh


    War! huh-yeah
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing
    Say it again y'all


    War! huh good God
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing
    Listen to me?


    Ohhh? War! I despise
    Because it means destruction?
    Of innocent lives


    War means tears
    to thousands of mothers eyes
    When their sons go to fight
    and lose their lives


    I said - War! Huh Good God y'all
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing
    Say it again


    War! Whoa, Lord ...
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Listen to me?


    War! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
    War! Friend only to the undertaker
    War! It's an enemy to all mankind
    The thought of war blows my mind


    War has caused unrest in the younger generation
    Induction then destruction-
    Who wants to die?

    Ohhh? War Good God y'all
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing
    Say it, Say it, Say it


    War! Uh-huh Yeah - Huh!
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing
    Listen to me?


    War! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
    War! It's got one friend, that's the undertaker
    War has shattered many a young mans dreams
    Made him disabled bitter and mean
    Life is much to precious to spend fighting wars these days
    War can't give life, it can only take it away


    War! Huh Good God y'all
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing
    Say it again


    War! Whoa, Lord ...
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
    Listen to me?


    War! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
    War! Friend only to the undertaker
    Peace Love and Understanding;
    tell me, is there no place for them today?
    They say we must fight to keep our freedom
    But Lord knows there's got to be a better way


    War! Huh Good God y'all
    What is it good for?
    You tell me
    Say it, Say it, Say it


    War! Huh Good God y'all
    What is it good for?
    Stand up and shout it.
    NOTHING!
  13. by   pickledpepperRN
    Flowers Of Peace Lyrics
    by Pete Seeger

    Oh the summertime is coming, and the leaves are sweet returning
    But those flowers of peace, it's for them I'm really yearning

    Will they bloom, ever bloom?
    Will they bloom in the springtime?
    Oh you flowers of peace
    When the world should be ringtime(?)
    Will ye bloom, ever bloom?

    I built my love a bower by a clear, crystal river
    But the thing her heart desires is a thing I cannot give her

    Oh providence smiled impassive, while I fell on bended knee
    Said, the lives of you empires are no more than swarms of bees

    If you and I would see those flowers, get up and rouse your
    neighbors
    When first the seed I'd planted, it takes long and careful labor

    If you and I would see those flowers, go out and till the fertile
    soil
    It will take more than prayers, it takes hard and sweaty toil


    __________
    Obviously to Wild Mountain Thyme
  14. by   pickledpepperRN
    Words adapted from The Bible, Book of Ecclesiastes

    To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
    There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
    And a time for every purpose, under Heaven
    A time to be born, a time to die
    A time to plant, a time to reap
    A time to kill, a time to heal
    A time to laugh, a time to weep
    To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
    There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
    And a time for every purpose, under Heaven
    A time to build up, a time to break down
    A time to dance, a time to mourn
    A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together
    To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
    There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
    And a time for every purpose, under Heaven
    A time of love, a time of hate
    A time of war, a time of peace
    A time you may embrace, a time to refrain from embracing
    To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
    There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
    And a time for every purpose, under Heaven
    A time to gain, a time to lose
    A time to rend, a time to sew
    A time to love, a time to hate

    A time for peace, I swear it's not too late

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