out of the conservative closet: dedicated to SUZY-K

  1. SuzyK made an interesting point in another thread recently....l THINK it was a WAR/TERRORISM topic.....However, there are so many threads in this forum my head is spinning. SOOOO....thought l would start another one

    Suzy, you were lamenting that you feel nearly alone in supporting some of your political views etc. Don't remember exactly how you put it, but implying conservatives are maybe less outspoken? Maybe they save it for talk radio...LOL! l am kind of curious about this too. And wondering about others thoughts on this.

    l believe there are numerous ppl who hold a philosophy that is conservative/independant/right of center....but are not outspoken. l call them closet conservatives....and this is a phenomena that leaves me wondering...why??? l have gotten severaly pm's from ppl who agreed with a point l made, but never felt comfortable being outspoken about it in the public forum.

    As for myself, l just get tired of repeating the same things over and over, hearing the same debates over and over....and l totally loose track of what was said on which thread about which topic. l receive a lot of good info via e-mail, pretty much conservative agenda, but l don't totally trust institutions with agendas, neither left nor right, so l don't tend to quote or post these, it is really irritating to me when the press is taken as gospel. l do believe that sadly, war is the only effective way to deal with S. H....but l don't "want" war. l do believe that some..(NOT ALL) anti-war is really anti-Bush sentiment self rightiously disguised......

    l am not ashamed to admit l am Christain and relatively conservative.....but most like me know that this conjures images of JImmy Swaggert and Tammy Faye for many....Suzy, you were talking about being Catholic yet pro-life.....l too hold many views that are in opposition to the Christain right.........but personally, l think there are many like me who just get tired of feeling like they must defend and explain themselves so it gets easier to just not bother.

    l have many friends who will never ever squeeze into a conservative mold, nor do l want them to.....we debate respectfully and do a lot of good natured ribbing and and barbing.
    ln fact, l am married to one of them.....and l save my best stuff for him:chuckle

    So, my rambling is over...l dunno, maybe it's time to ask for a ciggarett and a blindfold.....thanks for listening..........LR
    Last edit by l.rae on Feb 26, '03
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  3. by   Q.
    Hey l.rae,

    For goodness sake's, I get so confused/paranoid that despite knowing that you are more conservative than liberal, I saw this thread and thought:"oh god, NOW what?"

    With the exception of far right conservatives, such as your Limbaugh, etc, I think the majority of conservatives are quiet. They hear something on the radio or the news, or like here, read a post, and think "nah, that's not how it is" but move on.

    I usually get a few PMs here and there stating agreement with something I post. But usually they don't indicate that they don't post out of fear or anything. I think they just don't post much. But yes, I totally hear you. I get so tired of hearing myself, that it becomes soooo refreshing to hear another conservative - like Mimi Wheeze, I think, a relatively new poster who started speaking out.

    That being said, I also get tired of the same liberals. So many times I look for my coupla favorite liberals, who are non-condscending and non-age-discriminating, who are intelligent, articulate, and don't disagree just because it's a conservative viewpoint. They don't sensationalize or overdramaticize. I literally am starving for their input more. I wish they would.
  4. by   l.rae
    l know the frustration......then l get snide......then l feel guilty......frustration....snide....guilt......rep eat.......LOL
  5. by   l.rae
    ooops...in the original post, l meant to say Suzy said she was Catholic yet proCHOICE...did l get that right?......sauwy bout that.
  6. by   VivaLasViejas
    l.rae: I know I probably sound like a flaming liberal on the war issue, but the truth is, while I loathe George Bush and the "wing nuts" on the far right, I'm just as suspicious of the far left. I wasn't crazy about Al Gore and the tree-huggers, and people like Ted Kennedy, Al Sharpton and Carolyn Mosely-Braun scare the hell out of me because they want to give the whole country away to people who need to learn to speak English and people who need to get off their butts and work like the rest of us. You and I and every nurse here all work too damned hard for what we have; we shouldn't have to compensate others for something we didn't do to them. I even support the Second Amendment and possess a concealed weapons permit, which is anathema to the true liberal.

    I think that people who think along the lines I do----conservative on some issues, liberal on others---are the biggest "silent majority" in this country. A couple of elections ago, we were courted as the "radical middle"; now, we seem to have become invisible again, and the country is once again being ruled by the right while the left stews and fumes and plots and plans. Trouble is, neither wing has the right answers, IMHO.
  7. by   Q.
    Originally posted by mjlrn97
    I think that people who think along the lines I do----conservative on some issues, liberal on others---are the biggest "silent majority" in this country. A couple of elections ago, we were courted as the "radical middle"; now, we seem to have become invisible again, and the country is once again being ruled by the right while the left stews and fumes and plots and plans. Trouble is, neither wing has the right answers, IMHO.
    'zactly.

    And yes l.rae I am a pro-choice Catholic conservative!
  8. by   LasVegasRN
    Good post, l.rae. I don't like labels. Sometimes I am liberal, sometimes I am conservative - depends on the issue and how it affects me. My hope is that I can see and hear both sides and make an informed decision.
  9. by   DebsZoo
    Alright.conservative here, but similar to many that have a vast array of views. Christian, but not "religion based".
    I suppose I don't post as much because I don't always feel like I am as eloquent as many I read here. But I do keep up on all the threads, and agree with much that is said by the conservative posters.

    I respect George Bush, Colin Powell and many within the administration.
    I also believe that, in most cases, we conservatives will never sway liberals, or visa versa, so that tends to keep my mouth shut most of the time.
    I just wanted to let y'all know you weren't alone
  10. by   Glad2behere
    What a wonderful thread l.rae! Geez, I thought I was kinda alone in thinking conservatives are generally in a defensive posture in debate and never really that agressive. Slowly I see myself becoming a closet conservative because it just isn't worth the trouble. I have high praise for those with the energy and zest to still debate the issues. However, I have learned that liberals are much better at bringing ideas to issue and never tire of new ones that conservatives generally consider no big deal till all of a sudden they are! That seems to be the cycle. Liberals are much better at documentation like it means more than common sense somehow. Of course, they say the same about us! I hope Suzy keeps waving the flag!

    Or Suzy K for Pres!....Hey, I know a lot about campaigning and done a lot of it...Suzy, you'd be perfect!:chuckle
  11. by   l.rae
    Would you all believe that back in June before the election, l was considering voting for Al Gore....l was thinking of all the hoohaa Tipper endured when she advocated for record lables and thought Al might be more centrist that liberal.....in the end, his enviormental issues were too radical for me....there were other concerns....and l did like Bush also.....in the end l can say l am glad l gave GWB my vote......ahhhh....confession is good for the soul.......LOL
  12. by   l.rae
    Originally posted by Glad2behere
    What a wonderful thread l.rae! Geez, I thought I was kinda alone in thinking conservatives are generally in a defensive posture in debate and never really that agressive. Slowly I see myself becoming a closet conservative because it just isn't worth the trouble. I have high praise for those with the energy and zest to still debate the issues. However, I have learned that liberals are much better at bringing ideas to issue and never tire of new ones that conservatives generally consider no big deal till all of a sudden they are! That seems to be the cycle. Liberals are much better at documentation like it means more than common sense somehow. Of course, they say the same about us! I hope Suzy keeps waving the flag!

    Or Suzy K for Pres!....Hey, I know a lot about campaigning and done a lot of it...Suzy, you'd be perfect!:chuckle


    Suzy.....who's your running mate???...gotta warn you though, if Condi runs.....you will have some serious competition....
  13. by   DebsZoo
    George Bush may be a "cowboy" , as many have stated......but I'll take him over Gore anyday.
  14. by   Glad2behere
    Oh, L.rae, you broke my heart. Think I am gonna barf!

    Ok.....the seizure is over....

    We still love ya....but we're watchin:chuckle

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