Nudists dine in New York style

  1. Nudists dine in New York style
    Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:29 PM GMT

    By Claudia Parsons

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - The diners arrived at a nice Manhattan restaurant on a cold February night and stripped off coats, hats, gloves and scarves. They didn't stop there.

    Skirts, shirts, pants, underwear and stockings all ended up stashed in plastic bags by the bar as the patrons got naked for the monthly "Clothing Optional Dinner."

    "It's exciting to be in a restaurant nude," said George Keyes, 65, a retired junior high school English teacher.

    Nude yes, but not unadorned.

    Keyes, a lifelong nudist, wore a necklace, earrings and a black leather "genital bracelet" with red studs. And white sneakers.

    The dinner was started by a group of New York nudists who wanted something a bit more elegant than the wilderness getaways and beach resorts they generally frequent.

    "When you go away on holiday it's more you're roughing it in the woods, whereas this is a really nice restaurant," said Keyes, a member of gay nudist group Males Au Naturel, or MAN.

    John Ordover set up the dining club about a year ago, recruiting members through word of mouth and the Internet.

    "Next month is our Easter bonnet event, where everybody has to come wearing an Easter bonnet," said Ordover, a heavyset man with a jovial smile and glasses.

    SOMETHING TO SIT ON ...

    Around 30 people arrived for the buffet dinner -- organizers specified no hot soup on the menu -- most of them middle-aged, several married couples, some singles, the youngest perhaps in their 30s.

    "They're a good class of people, they're no different to you or I," said John Bussi, owner of the midtown restaurant. "They're not hurting anybody, it's not a wild Roman orgy."

    Health regulations mean staff must remain clothed even if they wanted to join in. And diners must bring something to sit on -- a towel or, for discerning women, an elegant silk scarf.

    The restaurant's manager covered the windows to maintain privacy at the strictly private party. Extra heaters kept the temperature at a comfortable level for nudity.

    Ordover's wife, Carol, said they first went on a naturist holiday five years ago and she found the experience empowering. But, she explained, it's "the least sexual thing you can possibly imagine."

    "Men in nudist resorts are striking a bargain. They get to see as many naked women as they like as long as they are polite and look them straight in the eye," she said.

    Sherry Stafford, a petite and elegant 51-year-old with blond hair and high heels, brought brochures and videos advertising her travel business, Internaturally Travel.

    One of the flyers was for a resort called "Hedonism II" whose slogan is "Be wicked for a week." But she said nudists should not be confused with swingers.

    "Wearing clothes and going to church does not protect you from moral evil," Stafford said, lamenting what she saw as a tendency to demonize people just because they like to be naked.

    Sandy, a slim woman in her 40s, said she never felt self-conscious about her body and was comfortable dining in the nude. But she did admit to being a bit more nervous before a recent naked yoga class attended by around 25 people.

    "Everyone was a little concerned there would be people looking around but the good thing is nobody really was," she said, standing at the restaurant's bar before dinner.

    "If you try to maintain a yoga position you're going to fall if you start looking around -- and that's more embarrassing than anything else."

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  3. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from BeachNurse
    Nudists dine in New York style
    Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:29 PM GMT

    By Claudia Parsons

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - The diners arrived at a nice Manhattan restaurant on a cold February night and stripped off coats, hats, gloves and scarves. They didn't stop there.

    Skirts, shirts, pants, underwear and stockings all ended up stashed in plastic bags by the bar as the patrons got naked for the monthly "Clothing Optional Dinner."

    "It's exciting to be in a restaurant nude," said George Keyes, 65, a retired junior high school English teacher.

    Nude yes, but not unadorned.

    Keyes, a lifelong nudist, wore a necklace, earrings and a black leather "genital bracelet" with red studs. And white sneakers.

    The dinner was started by a group of New York nudists who wanted something a bit more elegant than the wilderness getaways and beach resorts they generally frequent.

    "When you go away on holiday it's more you're roughing it in the woods, whereas this is a really nice restaurant," said Keyes, a member of gay nudist group Males Au Naturel, or MAN.

    John Ordover set up the dining club about a year ago, recruiting members through word of mouth and the Internet.

    "Next month is our Easter bonnet event, where everybody has to come wearing an Easter bonnet," said Ordover, a heavyset man with a jovial smile and glasses.

    SOMETHING TO SIT ON ...

    Around 30 people arrived for the buffet dinner -- organizers specified no hot soup on the menu -- most of them middle-aged, several married couples, some singles, the youngest perhaps in their 30s.

    "They're a good class of people, they're no different to you or I," said John Bussi, owner of the midtown restaurant. "They're not hurting anybody, it's not a wild Roman orgy."

    Health regulations mean staff must remain clothed even if they wanted to join in. And diners must bring something to sit on -- a towel or, for discerning women, an elegant silk scarf.

    The restaurant's manager covered the windows to maintain privacy at the strictly private party. Extra heaters kept the temperature at a comfortable level for nudity.

    Ordover's wife, Carol, said they first went on a naturist holiday five years ago and she found the experience empowering. But, she explained, it's "the least sexual thing you can possibly imagine."

    "Men in nudist resorts are striking a bargain. They get to see as many naked women as they like as long as they are polite and look them straight in the eye," she said.

    Sherry Stafford, a petite and elegant 51-year-old with blond hair and high heels, brought brochures and videos advertising her travel business, Internaturally Travel.

    One of the flyers was for a resort called "Hedonism II" whose slogan is "Be wicked for a week." But she said nudists should not be confused with swingers.

    "Wearing clothes and going to church does not protect you from moral evil," Stafford said, lamenting what she saw as a tendency to demonize people just because they like to be naked.

    Sandy, a slim woman in her 40s, said she never felt self-conscious about her body and was comfortable dining in the nude. But she did admit to being a bit more nervous before a recent naked yoga class attended by around 25 people.

    "Everyone was a little concerned there would be people looking around but the good thing is nobody really was," she said, standing at the restaurant's bar before dinner.

    "If you try to maintain a yoga position you're going to fall if you start looking around -- and that's more embarrassing than anything else."

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    I've never thought there was anything sexual about it . . . .it is just weird. Who wants to take food from a buffet when the guy in front of you is naked and leaning over the table to reach the salad dressing and his tallywacker flips onto the table . .. and what about hair!!!!????

    How embarrassing to have to bring a scarf or towel to sit on?????

    Geez . . . this is just so obviously weird.

    steph
  4. by   jnette
    Quote from stevielynn
    I've never thought there was anything sexual about it . . . .it is just weird. Who wants to take food from a buffet when the guy in front of you is naked and leaning over the table to reach the salad dressing and his tallywacker flips onto the table . .. and what about hair!!!!????

    How embarrassing to have to bring a scarf or towel to sit on?????

    Geez . . . this is just so obviously weird.

    steph

    OMG, Steph !!!

    But I agree... I find nothing "sexual" about it, either, just quite odd. I can handle the nudist beach idea, don't really have a problem with that... as I've never been one to have all these "taboos" about the human body.

    But I must confess that this strikes me as simply ODD. And if NUDE.. hten there should also be no high heels, or other "adornments" in my book.

    But then, what do I know about elegant dining in the nude ? :chuckle
  5. by   BeachNurse
    Uhh...waiter, there's a pube in my salad...
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    oh gross. i am sorry there is nothing appetizing about most nude bodies. beach is one thing. my restaurant? Umm no thanks.
  7. by   Roy Fokker
    This thread impresses upon my young, youthful mind about one inescapble and marvellous fact -

    How diverse are we, our thoughts and our outlooks on this world
  8. by   Spidey's mom
    Ok - I can sorta understand nude beaches because afterall you are there to sunbathe and swim. However, I think naked bodies are funny looking - especially guy's. Not being offensive, I just think God has a sense of humor.

    But to go out to dinner nude? It is just not appetizing . . . really. If you think about it logistically, the buffet table is just below hip level . . .the groin area is right at the food level . . . come on!!!!!

    Now if they really wanna show off their bodies, why eat at tables?? They should have to place their plates on their knees. That way nothing is hidden.

    This is a funny thread - just what I needed since I'm suffering from seasonal affective disorder this cold, gray, rainy afternoon.

    steph :chuckle
  9. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from BeachNurse
    Uhh...waiter, there's a pube in my salad...

    Uhh . . . . that happened to me at a mexican restaurant. The pube was on the plate under the soup bowl.

    So, do you want nude people COOKING your food????

    steph
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
  11. by   Roy Fokker
    Quote from stevielynn
    This is a funny thread - just what I needed since I'm suffering from seasonal affective disorder this cold, gray, rainy afternoon.
    Sheesh! The nerve of them Californians! A dew days of dodgy weather and they start complaining on ya!

    - Roy (a rather jealous New Yorker this blizzardy, colder than ice day :chuckle )
  12. by   SharonH, RN
    Okey-doke.
  13. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Roy Fokker
    Sheesh! The nerve of them Californians! A dew days of dodgy weather and they start complaining on ya!

    - Roy (a rather jealous New Yorker this blizzardy, colder than ice day :chuckle )

    :chuckle I think I've talked my 15 year old daughter into going to the movies with me . . . In Good Company is playing in Burney. The old theater there was renovated a few years ago and is very nice and the owner gets movies as soon as they are released - she recently purchased the old theater here just two houses down from me and is renovating it too.

    steph
  14. by   renerian
    OMG Very funny................tallywacker.................. ........

    renerian

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