Norman Mailer and 9-11, Autumn, Holidays, and War

  1. Was reading an article about the 9-11 memorials. Some people , according to the article, felt we (America) had gone "a little overboard with the commemmorations." The article reads:

    As the author Norman Mailer recently stated, "America has an almost obscene infatuation with itself." Before long, others will
    call for what in the vernacular is referred to "as closure."

    Another article in yesterdays' paper reports women and children in Zambia digging for roots and eating bark off of trees. It reports 14 million Africans will probably die of starvation before the New Year.

    It seems to me that that last statement validates Mr. Mailers' opinion.

    It looks like a long autumn for those "not infatuated."
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  2. 11 Comments

  3. by   Sleepyeyes
    ohmygawwwwd!!

    Mysogynist Mailer is STILL ALIVE???!!!!
  4. by   prn nurse
    LOL !!! Going as strong as ever !

    See:

    www.iol.ie/~kic/mailer3.html

    an interesting read

    Thanks for the msn site... i already went to it from your other post and registered and spent 2 hours .... a good site
  5. by   Sleepyeyes
    never forget the time he cold-cocked Gore Vidal on the Johnny Carson show....

    (still think Vidal was the better writer--is he still alive too?)
  6. by   Sleepyeyes
    anyhow....all that is just to say that IMHO, just because Mailer said it is a good enough reason for me to disregard it.
  7. by   rncountry
    Gore Vidal died a couple years ago. Wonderful writer. Norman Mailer is not worth the powder to blow him to hell.
  8. by   fergus51
    Don't a lot of people on this board agree? I know a lot (including myself) did not want to watch the tv coverage because it has gotten so out of hand...
  9. by   Sleepyeyes
    Seriously though, I would've been way more offended if this event had NOT been "over-covered." Every American was affected. Every American was touched. Every American was changed.
  10. by   fergus51
    Yeah, but most Americans have gone on with their lives. I think it could have been tasteful without all the exaggeration. I don't think an event like that needs to be exaggerated and belabored. When it is, it loses significance.
  11. by   SmilingBluEyes
    sorry, i agree...... we DO carry on too much about many things. i personally shut off my TV and Radio the whole day 9/11. sure, i remember. sure, i wept that day. but i don't believe in over-blown acts of drama when it comes to expressing my grief. but that isjust me, i guess. and no, i am no fan of normal mailer.
  12. by   eltrip
    Originally posted by prn nurse
    Was reading an article about the 9-11 memorials. Some people , according to the article, felt we (America) had gone "a little overboard with the commemmorations." The article reads:

    As the author Norman Mailer recently stated, "America has an almost obscene infatuation with itself." Before long, others will
    call for what in the vernacular is referred to "as closure."

    Another article in yesterdays' paper reports women and children in Zambia digging for roots and eating bark off of trees. It reports 14 million Africans will probably die of starvation before the New Year.

    It seems to me that that last statement validates Mr. Mailers' opinion.

    It looks like a long autumn for those "not infatuated."
    Our participation in any of the commemorations that took place last Wednesday were voluntary...was anyone required to attend or watch the television coverage? I seriously doubt it. I neither had the time nor the inclination to site & watch all of the remembrances. Our country was, indeed, changed. Were last week's ceremonies how I would choose to commemorate the day. Probably not.

    As to the people in Zambia who are suffering from starvation, I am saddened by their state of affairs & am for additional efforts to assist these folks. I saw the coverage of this tragedy on the news as well. Here's the link to the site:

    http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...bia020902.html

    Okay, I'm not crazy about gentically modified foods. However, if it was a choice between that and starvation, I'd choose the gm stuff.

    Where's Norman Mailer from, anyway?
  13. by   prn nurse
    I had to look him up ..i use www.google and typed in his name. He was from NYC and now lives in Mass.
    He was required reading when I was in college. He has won two Pulitzer's and his bio says "everything but the Nobel." (for Literature)


    I had to look up "misogny" that Sleepy threw out.

    He was married six times ! The old woman-hater explains he hated the feminists....that they put men down to exalt themselves... which I think was true in those days...after all it was a female revolution....and revolutions leave victims. He has always been controversial.

    I wonder if the Johnny Carson episode is on the Carson Classic video's. I'd sure buy the whole set to see that !! (Mailer cold-cocking Vidal!)

    That's whats' wrong with this "PC" world today.....no Pulitzer prize winners whacking competing big-shots on t.v. ! LOL

    Mailer was a 70's Vietnam activist.... Was REAL verbal and arrested and jailed several times..
    I appreciate his writing talent and his obvious skill with the English language....

    I agree with his opinion re the U.S. & 9-11 ....our citizens don't travel outside their borders & have a "I'm a citizen of the world" perspective.
    I plan to do some research on the net...maybe some of you know.... I want to make a donation for these countries with the 14 million starving...it is affecting about six countries and they are predicting 14 million more in 2003.This initial 14 mil is predicted to die in the next 4 months.
    I read an article years ago that said famine is allowed to take place as a means of population control.
    I personally have a problem with stuffing my face while acknowledging helpless people a days plane ride away are trying to survive by eating grass, roots, tree bark, etc.




    IF Y'ALL hate Norman, At least....Please click on the site and read his '''OPINIONS''' The one on marriage is priceless !!!!

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