Neighborhood getting dangerous

  1. My neighborhood has always been a nice quiet place where everyone lived in relative peace. My grandparents own a pretty big farm that all of their kids own an acre of. My parents house is next to aunt Debs house, which is next to aunt Carols house, which is next to uncle Dudleys house. Between my aunt Carols acre and the road is about an acre or two of land where this man had his house, a mobile home, a church, a barn and two sheds. He died this past year and all of it was sold to a family who bought it with drug money. They are growing marijuana and selling any other drugs that they can sell. They have eleven killer dogs. We are talking dobermans and pitbulls that will come to your house and will snarl at you and your kids. They have even been exchanging gunfire with cars that just drive up and start shooting. Tonight one of them started shooting in front of our house. My sister and her boyfriend have called the police, his step dad is a city police officer and they have started an investigation. These people have a five year old and a thirteen year old (girls) who sleep in a shed out behind the mobile home that they air conditioned so that they can do business without the kids being able to be witnesses. They are doing all of this 1000 feet from a daycare in a neighborhood full of families with small kids. I wish that the police would hurry up and arrest them and destroy their drug crops. They may have robbed a woman down the street last week. I am seriously thinking of calling the Kentucky State Police Post. I suspect that they are heavily armed and those dogs will attack. Me thinks this could get ugly. I thnk I will wait until daylight. As much as they shoot at each other you would think that someone would have been hit by now. Just needed a quick rant. Missing the old way, when things were simple and you didn't have to worry about getting shot while you sleep.
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  2. 12 Comments

  3. by   chris_at_lucas_RN
    Get out there in the night, dark clothes and whatever you have to smear on your face to keep it from being shiny, and take videos.

    Do it from an angle that doesn't suggest it was done from your house or yard.

    Make sure the little red light can't be seen.

    Try to capture faces and license plates.

    Then take that to the police--or maybe you want to consider the local TV station, since the police don't seem to be able to do much other than "investigate."

    There's always the FBI and the DEA if you think the police are in on it. Investigation my eye....

    My heart's with you.
  4. by   koan
    Do not get your self involved in this fashion, stay away from those people and let the police deal with it, trust me on this I have dealt with people like this and if they get your name your in trouble if they are the vengeful types not to mention they can pay some junkie to shoot you (this is what happened to me when I complained)There comes a time when you may have to get involved but dont go sneaking around trying to do the polices job.

    Quote from chris_at_lucas
    Get out there in the night, dark clothes and whatever you have to smear on your face to keep it from being shiny, and take videos.

    Do it from an angle that doesn't suggest it was done from your house or yard.

    Make sure the little red light can't be seen.

    Try to capture faces and license plates.

    Then take that to the police--or maybe you want to consider the local TV station, since the police don't seem to be able to do much other than "investigate."

    There's always the FBI and the DEA if you think the police are in on it. Investigation my eye....

    My heart's with you.
    Last edit by Nurse Ratched on Jun 20, '04 : Reason: language
  5. by   SmilingBluEyes
    how about a call to a local news station or newspaper???? this deserves some REAL attention and investigation. And DO involve the police. DO NOT mess w/them; they are seriously dangerous .....

    I feel for you my friend. This is so sad.
  6. by   chris_at_lucas_RN
    I only suggested what our police department (Norman, OK) told us to do 20 years when the next door neighbors began growing, cooking up and selling lord knows what, and cars kept driving up at all hours of the night, people running in for a few minutes and then running out.

    She could also move, which is what we wound up doing.
  7. by   leslie :-D
    :imbar this sounds very dangerous; but DO make sure that police are involved but do not let those neighbors know you're involved....tread slowly and very cautiously.
  8. by   koan
    A few years ago I moved into a new apartment, wonderful 1 bedroom with new stuff and only 350$'s a month I couldn't believe my luck...then it started. My downstairs neighbor was up all night and day he beat his female friend without mercy (I watched from my balcony as he beat her unconscious) I called the police, they talked to the women she wouldn't press chargers and the guy was eyeballing me the whole time.
    So nothing happens even though this woman was covered with blood and bruises. I spoke to the aparment management and they wouldn't do anything, (he was listed as an indigent and was receiving state help and therefore always paid his rent.) I called the police 2 more times then I decided to move out.
    One week after moving out I came to check the mail to see if anything had slipped past the change address and met with one of the neighbors.
    She was surprised to see me and thought I was doing great, when I asked her what she meant she told me a man had come knocked on my door and when it opened he shot the person standing there...well it wasn't me but another guy that had just moved in 2 days before (about 3 or 4 days after I left) to what he most likely thought was a great deal.
    Apparently a hit had been put on me but the timing was not very good.
    So unless you're willing to deal with that stuff I suggest you let the police handle it and maybe call the local news station as well.


    Quote from chris_at_lucas
    I only suggested what our police department (Norman, OK) told us to do 20 years when the next door neighbors began growing, cooking up and selling lord knows what, and cars kept driving up at all hours of the night, people running in for a few minutes and then running out.

    She could also move, which is what we wound up doing.
  9. by   kids
    Quote from Chad_KY_SRNA
    <snip>These people have a five year old and a thirteen year old (girls) who sleep in a shed out behind the mobile home that they air conditioned so that they can do business without the kids being able to be witnesses.<snip>
    It may seem like a drop in the bucket with all that is going on but...call CPS, that these people have their kids sleeping in a shed. The more agencies involved the better.
    (If they are cooking meth thank God the kids are not sleeping in the house).
  10. by   Energizer Bunny
    You shouldn't have to move because of this situation. I am with the others...get the police well invovled. Hound them if you have to....call a local tv station, radio station, newspaper...ALL OF THEM!!! get people concerned and MAD!!!! (I'm mad for you!) Let us know how it goes.....thinking of you and praying for your situation.
  11. by   Blackcat99
    I hope the police can help you. My uncle and aunt called the police about their neighborhood drug dealers. The drug dealers must have figured out it was them that called. The police told my aunt and uncle to find a new place to live. The police said that these particular drug dealers were extremely dangerous and that their lives were in danger if they continued to live there.
  12. by   Rapheal
    You could get your neighbors together and arrange meetings with your city council, the mayor, community police. Talk with everybody who can do something.

    This is what we did to save our neighborhood. The city spent over $20,000 in extra law enforcement to clean up the mess. Made the troublemakers so unhappy that they moved. Now new troublemakers have moved in.

    We are planning on moving next year. Better luck in your situation.
  13. by   Blackcat99
    Quote from Rapheal
    You could get your neighbors together and arrange meetings with your city council, the mayor, community police. Talk with everybody who can do something.

    This is what we did to save our neighborhood. The city spent over $20,000 in extra law enforcement to clean up the mess. Made the troublemakers so unhappy that they moved. Now new troublemakers have moved in.

    We are planning on moving next year. Better luck in your situation.
    When I lived at my apt. on Denny Way in Seattle they called it the "crack house' apts. The police told the apt. building owners in that area that if they didn't get rid of the druggies that they were going to shut them down. They increased law enforcement too and got rid of them. It was great! :hatparty:
  14. by   unbridled
    I was born in Hazard in eastern Kentucky about 60 miles from Beattyville and have lived in southern Kentucky most of my life. Most of my relatives still live in eastern Kentucky.

    I wouldn't go to local police at all. In eastern Kentucky, where Beattyville is located, there have been at least 2 local sheriffs killed over drugs in the past couple of years. One was burned to death in his personal vehicle (and this was after he was shown on video accepting bribe money from a drug dealer). The other was a well-respected and popular sheriff that was assassinated while running for re-election. Seems his opponent had a dealer backing him for office and they figured this would be the easiest way to get the new guy elected.

    Eastern Kentucky is infested with drugs. You have families who have lived in abject poverty for generations and have never had a member graduate from high school - much less college; but they want that big screen TV and the new car and a four-wheeler ATV for every man, woman, and child in the family (and there's 2 or 3 deaths a week from ATV accidents - which is another story). So all they have to do is grow a little weed way back in the holler of the mountain and sell a few pills and all of sudden they've got money to burn. And because it's non-declared money they still get to receive all their welfare and social security disability checks (I don't know the exact percentage of people in eastern Kentucky who draw these checks, but I do know it's well over 50%). They don't want to lose this new lifestyle so they pay off the local officials. Then they feel they can do whatever they want - including being hostile to the law-abiding citizens.

    I think the best thing to do is send numerous letters to the investigative reporters at WYMT in Hazard and all three Lexington stations, along with the Lexington Herald-Leader newspaper. You could always send them anonymously if you don't feel comfortable sending them with your name on them. I have a cousin-in-law who is a State Trooper and the Troopers seem to be less resistant to being paid off. But it wouldn't hurt for a call or letter to them to be anonymous, also. Because they may be more resistant to pay-offs, but the dispatchers may not be.

    Good luck.

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