Mass shooting at Texas church - 20 + Killed - page 3

First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, TX, was the scene of another senseless mass shooting this morning about 11:30 am during the Sunday morning service. At least 27 people have been killed and... Read More

  1. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from nurseactivist
    I saw this on facebook and I thought you might appreciate it:

    "Today is election day and if you are democrat, please get out and vote today.

    If you're a republican, thoughts and prayers are sufficient

    Jennifer Wright
    That is hilarious!!!!!
  2. by   azhiker96
    Quote from No Stars In My Eyes
    But what about the Brady Bill, named after the guy who got shot during the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan? Did that go anywhere or accomplish anything? Or wasn't he big enough or important enough to make a difference?
    The Brady bill was passed and has been law for over two decades. It mandates federal background checks. We see how well that works when information is not fed into the system as it should have been.

    I see the police are upset that they cannot break into the shooter's phone to try to figure out why he did the shooting. Consider his past violent history, threatening texts to his wife's mother, and the fact she sometimes attends that church. Barney Fife could probably figure this one out.
  3. by   Lil Nel
    Yeah, I don't really understand why so much time and effort is spent on figuring out the motives of these shooters. The shooters are dead. The victims are dead. What will change? The end result is still the same.
  4. by   elkpark
    Quote from Lil Nel
    Yeah, I don't really understand why so much time and effort is spent on figuring out the motives of these shooters. The shooters are dead. The victims are dead. What will change? The end result is still the same.

    But it distracts everyone from the gun issue ...
  5. by   Lil Nel
    Yes, I guess it is easier to think that there is some big, underlying reason for all these shootings, besides the obvious: too many guns and too easy access to guns.

    The majority of the mentally ill (Bipolar, depressed, etc.) never commit mass shootings.

    And I heard an interesting interview on NPR with a gun rights advocate who doesn't subscribe to the notion of "a good guy with gun" could stop an attack. He said the amount of training required to be able to properly respond to such an attack would be greater than what most law enforcement receive.

    Yes, the latest shooter was shot by a so-called good guy. But the killing at that point was already done. We don't know that the "good guy" prevented anything other than the shooter taking longer to kill himself.

    Yes, The Boomtown Rats solved this mystery years ago when they sang about Brenda Spencer shooting up the playground in CA.
  6. by   Lil Nel
    I hope the Newtown families are successful in their efforts.

    It is very disturbing that the manufacturers of opioids and tobacco can be sued for the harm caused by their products, but somehow, gun manufacturers are exempt. Oh, right, that's because many members of Congress have been bought and paid for the terrorist group known as the NRA.


    Appeal Offers Hope for Newtown Families in Suit Against Gun Companies - The New York Times
  7. by   BCgradnurse
    And another gunman on a rampage in California. One of his targets was an elementary school. Wonder where the shooting will be next week, or the week after?

    Keep those thoughts and prayers coming. They're working so well.
  8. by   herring_RN
    The priest who started and runs Home Boy Industries says he learned a lesson about prayer as a third grader, "I prayed for a good grade on a test and failed. The next time a prayed AND STUDIED. I got an "A"."
  9. by   toomuchbaloney
    Isn't there something in the Scriptures that suggests that faith without works is suspect?

    To answer my own question, yes, there is.
  10. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    Isn't there something in the Scriptures that suggests that faith without works is suspect?

    To answer my own question, yes, there is.
    Tell it to Congress.
  11. by   elkpark
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    Isn't there something in the Scriptures that suggests that faith without works is suspect?

    To answer my own question, yes, there is.
    The quote (as I suspect you know ) is that faith without works is dead.

    "14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but does not have works? Can this kind of faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacks daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, keep warm and eat well," but you do not give them what the body needs, what good is it? 17 So also faith, if it does not have works, is dead being by itself ... 26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.." (James 2:14-17. 26)

    The section I bolded seems to adress the "sending our thoughts and prayers" issue pretty well.
  12. by   Lil Nel
    If the Newtown families are successful in their efforts, things will change. Rather than "thoughts and prayers," I will place my faith in the United States justice system. Yes, the same one the Bum has referred to as a "joke."

    Gun violence needs to be treated as a public health emergency, just as the opioid crisis.

    The NRA and its supporters need to be labeled as terrorists, just as ISIS.

    Gun manufacturers need to be responsible for the marketing of their products, just as tobacco and opioid makers.

    Military-style weapons need to be made illegal for the general public usage and removed from the general public.

    Citizens need to support lawmakers who aren't part of an organized terrorist group.

    Those who own guns must be made to take gun safety classes, no laws that do away with that!

    Parents must be made responsible for the carnage caused by their children who somehow have access to the parent's guns.

    Just the other day, a three-year-old in Louisville shot himself in the head with a gun he found in his parents car. Really??????
  13. by   Lil Nel
    HARTFORD - The Connecticut Supreme Court heard an appeal on Tuesday brought by relatives of victims in the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School who argued that the companies that manufactured and sold the military-style assault rifle used by the gunman should be held responsible for the 2012 attack.
    A lawsuit filed by the relatives said that the AR-15-style Bushmaster used to carry out the shooting in Newtown, Conn., that killed 26 people, including 20 first graders, was specifically marketed as a weapon of war, with slogans and product placement in video games invoking the violence of combat. The lawsuit claims that such promotions were a deliberate effort to make the weapon attractive to young men, like Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old gunman.
    "Remington may never have known Adam Lanza, but they had been courting him for years," Joshua D. Koskoff, one of the lawyers representing the families, told the panel of judges, referring to the gun maker that was named in the suit, along with a wholesaler and a local retailer. "The courtship between Remington and Adam Lanza is at the heart of the case."

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