Quote from spacenurse
Like the government paying me to create a school for kids to learn non standard English and become the next generation od rap performers?
WHY should taxpayers agree to pay me to do that?
There is simply a more rational basis than generic taxpayers at issue here. Parents want what is best for their children.
The more relevant question is: Why should PARENTS agree to pay me to do that? Why, indeed?
As far as your quote about public schools. That was FINE, when the gov't wasn't so antithetical to religion. 225 yrs ago, gov't VALUED religion. And rightly so. Read the Federalist Papers if you have any doubt. The Constitution does NOT demand that the gov't not value the positive benefits of religion, only that they don't take it to the next level and ESTABLISH a SPECIFIC religion.
The mere mention of religion is NOT an establishment of religion. Indeed, demanding no mention of religion comes CLOSER to the establishment of a specific religion: secular humanism.
Get the gov't out of the business of demanding that our national religion be secular humanism and THEN we can talk about gov'ts being in schools. In the meantime, if religion doesn't have a place, neither should gov't teaching its OWN religion.
And the gov't's established religion of secular humanism is EXACTLY on point to the idea of the gov't teaching moral values to our children. I'll pass. Not on the concept of sex ed, mind you: on the gov't's concept of sex ed, through the lens of secular humanism. THAT crosses the ESTABLISHMENT boundary. And, it does so more pervasively than a school prayer does.
BTW, at MY gov't high school, which I attended from 1983-1987, a school prayer was given over the intercom every morning EXCEPT for the week that the accreditation people were there. The school officials simply turned the intercom over for 3 minutes each morning, in turn, to each of the school clubs, and each, in turn, used their alloted time to let the student President of FCA (Fellowship of Christian Atheletes) speak. There you go. As far as I can tell, I wasn't harmed, even THOUGH she didn't believe exactly as I do, and that showed in her prayers, from time to time.