Kobe . . . ?

  1. Came across a couple of articles that were interesting:

    http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/...al/6355450.htm

    http://www.nypost.com/commentary/1221.htm

    What do you all think?

    steph
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  2. 23 Comments

  3. by   LaVorneRN
    You know, it's interesting. I adore Kobe and I didn't believe it when it first came out. It just sounded ridiculous. Then he admitted to the adultery. Well that was a hard pill to swallow. While I don't want to believe it went as far as assault..well I didn't want to believe he could have cheated. The violence of an assault just seems like it's not Kobe. Plus he has too much to lose with an assault versus cheating. It brings it up a notch. Even if he thought his wife wouldn't leave him (after the infidelity alone) it seems odd that he wouldn't risk his recent $endorsements$ and deals for damaging publicity, possible jail time and a criminal record. So as one article says, only those two know the extent of the truth and we'll have to wait and see how it turns out.
  4. by   fergus51
    I think it's impossible for people to really know the celebreties we all "love". We don't know them at all in reality. I think the sad part of this case is all the publicity (including the alleged victim's name and home address on the web).
  5. by   Spidey's mom
    Fergus, I agree. We don't really know these people. Just the public persona they choose to put "out there". We were discussing this last night with our 20 and 18 year old sons. They both said that it is their understanding that most of the guys in the NBA have multiple sexual partners, even though they may be married. It is just accepted. They weren't surprised by Kobe admitting adultery. That is so sad. We had a long talk about fidelity and promises . . . .

    I'm wondering if the star athletes are allowed to get away with so much that it corrupts them? Sorta like kids . . . let them get away with the small stuff and it builds to bigger and bigger and then they feel untouchable.

    What message indeed does this send to Kobe's daughter? That it will be ok with Kobe if her husband cheats on her? Guys will be guys afterall?





  6. by   Gomer
    Only non-victim is this story is Mrs. Kobe...no pre-nup, she will get half of everything he has...pretty good for a girl just a few years out of high school.

    And if Kobe needs a place to stay I'm certain OJ would rent him a room.
  7. by   funnygirl_rn
    Originally posted by Gomer
    Only non-victim is this story is Mrs. Kobe...no pre-nup, she will get half of everything he has...pretty good for a girl just a few years out of high school.

    And if Kobe needs a place to stay I'm certain OJ would rent him a room.

    Gomer..I heard that last night about the lack of pre-nup. Yep..not bad for someone a few years out of high school. Of course she will support him....
  8. by   Gomer
    I just read on MSNBC.com that Kobe bought the "little woman" a $4M 8-carat purple diamond ring. That should keep her at his side with her mouth shut for a few months.




    edited for typo
    Last edit by Gomer on Jul 24, '03
  9. by   passing thru
    I heard on the news there are 3 witnesses to the ruckus-disturbance in his hotel room and it was so loud and disturbing that they called hotel security.
    Hotel security did NOT investigate because it was a celeb.
    Little did they know it was their own employee.

    They also reported she went to the ER for a rape check.
  10. by   Rapheal
    I do not know if he is guilty or not. Here is what makes me suspicious though. The news and prosecutor say the girl was in the room for 25 minutes. It is obvious they had sex. If it was consensual wouldn't he have taken a little bit of time to talk to her, make her comfortable, butter her up so that she would sleep with him? And after she did, wouldn't he spend some time with her so that she would be encouraged to be discreet? I mean if someone wanted to keep somebody quiet they usually try to build some rapport with them- don't they? Seems odd that she arrives and it's all over that quickly.
  11. by   passing thru
    The news report also said there are witnesses who reported to police investigators of seeing the female leave the hotel "in disarray and emotionally upset. " (crying)...

    One t.v. lawyer said "Kobe is looking at doing time." Ala Mike....

    I think at this stage, it is in poor taste, for the news about Kobe to be:

    "Kobe Bryant presented his wife with a rare purple 10 carat diamond ring today, the ring is valued at 6 million dollars."
    (or was it 6 carats and valued at 4 million?...whatever...)

    (Yesterdays news)...


    If he looks slightly guilty to a jury, this information won't set too well with female jurists, in particular.
  12. by   colleen10
    I'm not really into sports and couldn't have even told you who Kobe Bryant was before this whole recent set of events.

    I will say though, that I can see both sides - that he did rape her, or that it was consentual and she later accused him. Either way, I just try to not make judgements. Who can really tell what is true and what is hype in the media? Hopefully, this will all be settled in court.

    The one thing that has bothered me about this whole scenario and has not been discussed in the media (as far as I have seen) is that rape is about control, not sex.

    I'm not saying that I think he did it, but I certainly would have hoped that with all the media hype surrounding this someone could get some facts about rape out there.

    I just get the impression from the media that "there's no way he could be a rapist because he's a huge multi million dollar athelete who could get any woman he wants." When, that's not what rape is about in the first place.

    I also find it odd that the media doesn't seem to be saying much/ making for debate that he is African American and she is caucasion.
  13. by   Cynthiann
    Originally posted by colleen10


    I also find it odd that the media doesn't seem to be saying much/ making for debate that he is African American and she is caucasion.
    Why would that fact make a difference in this whole rape issue?

    His wife is white, too, so what's the difference?

    I'm not going to make judgements either way either, no one really knows the truth but the two of them. I just don't understand why an athlete would risk everything for rape. If he really did do it, he probably has some psychological issues.
  14. by   colleen10
    Actually, his wife is half Hispanic and half something else. I thought I read she was also Philipino but she could be half caucasion. Not sure. That's why his family was against their marriage (on top that she was 18 years old) and they moved back to Philly.

    Here in Pittsburgh the past couple years we have had some incidences of African American men being killed by police, whether it be when they are stopped for a traffic violation as in the Johnny Gamage case or even more recently when Charles Dixon was killed while being restrained during a fight at a party in a fire hall that got out of hand. Here, it always becomes a race issue. Even when a police officer involved is the same race as the victim as in the shooting back in December of a 12 year old boy by two police officers.

    Just like, was it the Smith case, when she ran her car with her two children into the lake, but she first reported that an African American man had car-jacked her car with her children in it. Remember the backlash when they finally figured out that she did it and that there was no perpetrator invovled? Remember the outcry from just about everyone, not just minorities, of how wrong it was for the police and media to assume that an African American man was behind it just because she said so?

    I guess that's what I'm getting at is that it's surprising me that the media isn't making the differences in their race an issue. If you're pro victim it would be easy to say that he raped her because he has some deep seeded issue with caucasion women. If you were pro Kobe you could say she made it all up because he's African American.

    I'm not saying that I think race is an issue, because I don't believe that. But, it always seems that it's an argument brought up by the media.

    Or, have the media and hopefully the American people finally come to a place where we can look past the color and ethnicity of the people involved and just try to base everything on facts, not inuendo's and stereotypes?

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