Justice in compensation

  1. Hi - here's another subject from Renee (cheerfuldoer) She told me that LRae sent it to her, since her hubby is in the military, but she wasn't sure how to do it. I just cut and paste.

    Anyway, I don't know if this is really from Rush Limbaugh, and if it is, I'll bet he NEVER said to pass it on to everybody on your mailing list. I've also read that the actual families of the 9-11 victims are actually NOT getting much in the way of actual money. Funniest darn thing, huh?

    But it is an interesting train of thought. I've kind of had the same thought when there was a police or firefighter funeral here, about how this person's family will not be supported and taken care of as the people doing the same job during that horrible crisis are supposedly being. I understand that it's a matter of scale, but if it's YOUR loved one who sacrifices his/her life, no matter if nobody else was hurt at all, it would help so much not to have to worry about money and survival. Okay, all that said - here's the thingie.



    Love him or hate him, he nailed this one right on the head...

    Subject: Justice?

    by Rush Limbaugh, March 11, 2002

    I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11.

    Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.

    If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

    Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough.

    We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

    You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad.

    Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing.

    However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.

    If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month. I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.

    "When do we finally do something about this?"

    If this doesn't seem fair to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can. God, yes, GOD Bless America, and those who protect her!
    Last edit by NurseDennie on Sep 17, '02
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  3. by   l.rae
    NurseDennie...you should be a diplomat....but l know what you mean about not knowing the true origin of these e-mail thingies....Everyone did rally around the victim's survivors....nothing wrong with that....but, my son spent 4 yrs in the millitary and l think it is sad the way these men and women are disregarded for putting their life on the line...l hate that.."well, they signed up for it " mentality....LR
  4. by   live4today
    Amen l.rae.......I completely agree with your train of thought! :kiss

    Thanks Dennie for posting that for l.rae and I. :kiss

    I also believe the families of 9/11 are not benefitting financially as much as they should since the 9/11 tragedies. I saw the stories on t.v......some of them are doing okay.....some are doing better than okay......but many of them have not been helped at all. I wonder why that is?

    I've always believed that military armed forces do not receive their weight in gold. They are missionaries receiving a "small stipend" each month for serving our country, and when those soldiers are killed while serving our country, their families are NOT receiving the best benefits they SHOULD receive.....especially for the soldier's who are killed and leave minor children behind.

    My husband has served our great nation for twenty plus years now.....the money is NOT all that.....nor are the benefits. We pay rent for our housing on base that is HIGHER than the rent "off base" in the civilian sector. THUS.....families are starting to buy their own homes, or continue living on the civilian sector in better looking housing with better rent offers.....and much better maintenance staff to boot.
  5. by   fergus51
    I can't believe I would agree with RUSH LIMBAUGH!!! I do think he is Satan's representative on earth, but I have to say I agree. I was especially annoyed with firefighters' wives complaining that they "needed" the money because they lost husbands, when in fact they will receive the exact same salary their husbands had been getting for life so financially they were no worse off that Sept 10th. I am sick of the idea that money will make everyone feel better and someone always has to try to collect on suffering. Maybe suffering is just a part of life and people need to get that into their heads.
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    military wife., not rush limbaugh fan. but totally agree w/this. it has always been this way. it always will. 1000s of military have died or been maimed in the name of SWEET LIBERTY, and gotten little or no compensation for it. it never changes. this is why when it comes time to donate time or money, i do to causes that are largely ignored, not those surrounded by LARGESSE. if you get what i mean. military widows NEED it more than ANYone, believe me.
  7. by   researchrabbit
    Here in OKC, the Murrah victims received a little in the way of assistance (which was donated by people across the US but not the Federal Government), but not much. Some of the survivors are dealing with lifelong injuries (for example, a little boy, now 10, with a permanent trach and severely damaged lungs, living with grandma, who is drowning in medical bills -- and he's not the only one).

    Many of the grownup survivors are unable to work at this point, due to the fear engendered by post traumatic stress disorder.

    I don't know what is fair or what is right in the financial payouts that are being planned, but I hope they actually help the people involved and don't just pi** the money away. (I'm glad I'm not making those decisions!! Because someone will be unhappy no matter what).

    Latest on the Murrah building bombing here in OKC if you want to continue to get mad at the Feds...

    The latest is that the Federal building will be rebuilt TWO BLOCKS from the original site (now a memorial) and those people who were at the original building and are still working will have to walk past the memorial to get to work (many of whom haven't been able yet to visit the memorial). PLUS -- if you remember what the building looked like after it was blown up (like it had a half-moon bite taken out of the front of it) -- the new building has a crescent shape curve in the front. I know Feds in charge aren't too intelligent, but this is ridiculous. What were they thinking?
  8. by   Nurse Ratched

    Snopes says this info is essentially true (takes dispute with the reference to the congressional pension amounts.)