John Kerry's voting record

  1. By now, all americans have heard refrences made to John Kerry's senate voting record. How he will sometimes flip/flop on issues. While I understand a person can change their views over the course of time, how does that action effect his credibility?

    For example, at the end of the Cold War, Kerry advocated scaling back the CIA, but after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, he complained about a lack of intelligence capability.

    In the 1980s, he opposed the death penalty for terrorists who killed Americans abroad, but he now supports the death penalty for terrorist acts.

    In the 1990s, he joined with Republican colleagues to sponsor proposals to end tenure for public schoolteachers and allow direct grants to religion-based charities, measures that many Democratic groups opposed. In 1997, he voted to require elderly people with higher incomes to pay a larger share of Medicare premiums.

    Mr. Kerry has a long voting record, especially throughout the 1990s that led up to the terrorist attacks, of voting to cut defense spending, including weapons systems critical to our victories in Afghanistan and Iraq. His record also includes a lot of votes to cut the U.S. intelligence budget and to further hamstring the CIA's resources........ As he prepared to run for president, Mr. Kerry voted for the war resolution giving President Bush the authority to topple Saddam's terrorist regime, then proceeded to question the wisdom of his vote and what he called Mr. Bush's "rush to war."
    Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut Democrat, said Mr. Kerry's "ambivalence" about the war sent a troubling message of uncertainty, weakness and doubt the American people would reject in November.
    It was a new twist in the annals of flip-flops. A Boston Globe pundit said Mr. Kerry was telling the voters that while he voted against the first Iraq war, he actually supported it, and that he voted for the second war when he really opposed it.

    Is there more? Is Kerry one of those guys that tries to vote the popular vote at the time so that he will look good? I don't think so, but his voting record does worry me some. His defense spending bill voting record has me a little concerned. I went through the service in a time when people in the service were very poor, and funding was slashed, the missions and retention showed it. I hope it does not happen again.

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  3. by   ArleneG
    Not an issue I believe Bush should be pushing. For instance:

    Bush is against campaign finance reform; then he's for it.

    Bush is against a Homeland Security Department; then he's for it.

    Bush is against a 9/11 commission; then he's for it.

    Bush is against an Iraq WMD investigation; then he's for it.

    Bush is against nation building; then he's for it.

    Bush is against deficits; then he's for them.

    Bush is for free trade; then he's for tariffs on steel; then he's against them

    Bush is against the U.S. taking a role in the Israeli Palestinian conflict;
    then he pushes for a "road map" and a Palestinian State.

    Bush is for states right to decide on gay marriage, then he is for changing the

    Bush first says he'll provide money for first responders (fire, police,
    emergency), then he doesn't.

    Bush first says that 'help is on the way' to the military ... then he cuts

    Bush-"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. Bush-"I don't
    know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care.

    Bush claims to be in favor of the environment and then secretly starts drilling
    on Padre Island.

    Bush talks about helping education and increases mandates while cutting

    Bush first says the U.S. won't negotiate with North Korea. Now he will

    Bush goes to Bob Jones University. Then say's he shouldn't have.

    Bush said he would demand a U.N. Security Council vote on whether to sanction
    military action against Iraq. Later Bush announced he would not call for a vote

    Bush said the "mission accomplished" banner was put up by the sailors. Bush
    later admits it was his advance team.

    Bush was for fingerprinting and photographing Mexicans who enter the US. Bush
    after meeting with Pres. Fox, he's against it.
  4. by   2ndCareerRN
    Thanks for the rundown Arlene, any chance you can post links to those statements?

    Without them it is just another he said, she said type of post.


  5. by   fergus51
    If there is anything I know it's that ALL politicians change their minds when it suits them.
  6. by   Mkue
    I think it's important to know the voting records of candidates running for office. Democrats I've talked with are concerned about Kerry's flip-flopping record. I think it's an important factor to take into consideration when voting for any candidate, especially when there is excessive flip-flopping, I think it does reflect ones credibility.
  7. by   VivaLasViejas
    Yeah, hey, at least Bush is consistent: you can always count on him to favor big business over consumers and employees, the rich over the middle class and the poor, profits over people, and fundamentalist Christianity over the Constitution.
  8. by   ArleneG
    Hi Bob, no I don't have links to each statement but you can find them if you do a google search. The Daily Show had a funny video that they aired called Bush vs Bush with video of Bush contradicting his views. I believe you can download it on their website. Even if you aren't familiar with all the points you must be aware of some of them, they have been reported in mainstream press.
  9. by   pickledpepperRN
    Here's a list of all legislation vetoed from 1989 through 2000.
    No legislation has been vetoed by the President since 2000.

    Here's a site to search for congressional voting records:
  10. by   elkpark
    All of the items in Arlene's post have been widely reported and discussed in the national press; nothing obscure or mysterious on the list ...
  11. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from mjlrn97
    Yeah, hey, at least Bush is consistent: you can always count on him to favor big business over consumers and employees, the rich over the middle class and the poor, profits over people, and fundamentalist Christianity over the Constitution.
    I absolutely agree with this statement!

    I proudly cast my vote for Kerry in this week's Texas primary.
  12. by   2ndCareerRN
    All of the items in Arlene's post have been widely reported and discussed in the national press; nothing obscure or mysterious on the list
    Then indulge me.... I don't get out that much. If they have been widely reported and discussed in the national press, it should not be that hard to have a source.

    At least when I post something such as this, I search until I can find a verifiable source. I think it is the least anyone can do. Afterall, in any election year, the half truths, innuendos, and often, the outright lies are trotted out as gospel. And that happens on both sides of the fence.

    Just my opinion.

  13. by   duckboy20
    Wouldn't vote for Kerry if you payed me, probably won't vote for Bush. I think both are crooked in their own ways and just say what they want to please the group they are around just like almost all politicians. Why can't we have a solid politician who stands behind what they say? It's all about money
  14. by   athomas91
    let's be really clear...ALL politicians are crooked...
    if clinton didn't decimate our military and intelligence..perhaps 9/11 wouldn't have occurred..perhaps we would have had more accurate WMD intelligence...but i guess he was too busy getting busy

    you say Kerry is for the poor...the is really easy to tout yourself as the "people's" president when you have billions of dollars thanks to wifey-pooh...

    i bet kerry doesn't hit up HIS income level cronies when he proposes a 9 billion dollar tax increase...(which by the way is his plan of action)

    Bush has done more for the nursing community, and the medical community than any president...he has attempted to give APN's more power - and is currently trying to help those states whose malpractice ins rates are so high that doc's can't practice...he has lowered taxes....he took away the marraige penalty...

    and yeah, we are at war...but he alone didn't do that...if i remember correctly - congress allotted money for that...don't hear ya bashin' them...

    as a matter of fact...other than sleep w/ interns, what exactly did clinton do in office??

    kerry on the other hand is recorded in senate hearings as calling our country evil, murderous...taking shots at our soldiers about supposed war crimes...he basically...let's see if i can remember the quote.....oh that America was the "biggest nothing that every happened" - and you want HIM as your president.?!?!?!? good luck