Quote from VivaLasViejas
Tweety's right. No one religion has a corner on intimidation...........and EVERY religion has the potential to be used an excuse to control, harass, dominate, and spread hate and violence.
My mother used to say that "more wars have been started, more people killed, and more lives ruined in the name of God than anything else". I still think she was spot on, and that's why for most of my adult life I have not practiced any particular faith tradition. Recently, though, I decided that the only people who can change the church and make it the way God intended it are its followers..........and that goes for any religion, including Islam.
Just my two pence worth.
As an aside and a few pence more
- your mom's saying actually isn't quite true. I'm not suggesting that bad things haven't happened "in the name of God" but plenty of things have happened in the name of atheism. Just "in the past hundred years or so, the most powerful atheist regimes - Communist Russia, Communist China, and Nazi Germany - have wiped out people in astronomical numbers. Stalin was responsible for around twenty million deaths, produced through mass slayings, forced labor camps, show trials followed by firing squads, population relocation and starvation, and so on. Jung Chang and Jon Halliday's authoritative recent study Mao: The Unknown Story
attributes to Mao Zedong's regime a staggering seventy million deaths. . . . . Stalin's and Mao's killings - unlike those of, say, the Crusades or the Thirty Years' War - were done in peacetime and were performed on their fellow countrymen. Hitler comes in a distant third with around ten million murders, six million of them Jews. . . . So far I haven't even counted the assassinations and slayings ordered by other Soviet dictators like Lenin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, and so on. Nor have I included a host of "lesser" atheist tyrants: Pol Pot, Enver Hoxha, Nicolae Ceausescu, Fidel Castro, Kim Jong-il. Even these "minor league" despots killed a lot of people. Consider Pol Pot, who was the leader of the Khmer Rouge, the Communist Party faction that ruled Cambodia from 1975 to 1979. Within this four-year period Pol Pot and his revolutionary idealogues engaged in systematic mass relocations and killings that eliminated approximately one-fifth of the Cambodian population, an estimated 1.5 million to 2 million people. In fact, Pol Pot killed a larger percentage of his countrymen than Stalin and Mao killed of theirs. Even so, focusing only on the big three - Stalin, Hitler, and Mao - we have to recognize that atheist regimes have in a single century murdered more than one hundred million people. Religion-inspired killing cannot compete with the murders perpetrated by atheist regimes . . . . .Here is a rouch calculation. The world's population rose from around 500 million in 1450 AD to 2.5 billion in 1950, a five-fold increase. Taken together, the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the witch burnings killed approximately 200,000 people. Adjusting for the increase in population, that's the equivalent of one million deaths today. Even so, these deaths caused by Christian rulers over a five-hundred-year period amount to only 1 percent of the deaths caused by Stalin, Hitler, and Mao in the space of a few decades."
(Typed by me from the book "What's So Great About Christianity" by Dinesh D'Sousa, Chapter Nineteen; "A License to Kill: Atheism and The Mass Murders of History" starting on page 218 and ending on page 219.)