Iraq War: Now It's PERSONAL!!!

  1. Tonight, I arrived home from a wonderful weekend of fun in Seattle only to receive some terrible news: my Army girl's ex-boyfriend was killed in action near Fallujah yesterday, just three months before his tour of duty was to end.

    This young man was part of our family for years; he and Melanie were practically engaged, and while dh and I ended up being very unhappy with him (and his mother, who engineered their eventual breakup), they remained friends long after the split, and still talked occasionally for a couple of years even after his enlistment in the Marines. In fact, he was her inspiration for joining the Army........like her, he had aspirations far beyond life in this little town, and he figured the service was a good way to get the money for college, and see a little of the world while he was at it.

    I can't believe he's really gone!! The details were all over the newspaper and TV today; according to the media, he was shot in the head and died along with several other U.S. soldiers in the midst of an attack on their position. He is the third serviceman from our town to die in Iraq this year, but this is the first one I knew personally. His grandmother is a longtime acquaintance of mine, an OB nurse where I work, and I can only imagine what she must be feeling. I've never had any particular use for his mother, who I'll just say lacks a certain maturity; but NOBODY deserves this..........and I'm so angry about all this that I don't know what to do:angryfire

    As everyone who's been around this site for any length of time knows, I've been against this war from the time the Bush administration started talking about it. Now, what was once merely one cause of my disgust with and general contempt for this administration has been brought home in all its ugliness: someone I knew, who spent a great deal of time in my home, who loved my daughter, who once came to me along with Melanie to talk about sex, is DEAD because of faulty intelligence, lies, and God knows what else. He was only 21 years old, but now he's the latest statistic, in a series of 2000+ American men and women who have died in this misbegotten war. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

    And I want to know WHY? Why is it that men---especially men like Bush and Cheney, who have never been to war and have never seen the human costs up close---are so at ease with justifying the death of other men? Is it an utter lack of compassion? Is it power? Or is it all just a playground rumble between rival bullies who won't stoop to soiling their own hands, but are more than willing to manipulate the players on the field and sacrifice as many as they have to in order to win?

    This whole mess is an exercise in futility, yet we continue to send more young people to their deaths in an effort to 'fix' a country like Iraq. What incredible arrogance it must take to believe we can change a nation that has been at war, and a way of life that has been in place, since Old Testament times.........it was wrong in the first place, it's wrong now, and it'll STILL be wrong 10 years from now when we're still trying to whip a little democracy on Iraq and TEN thousand American lives have been lost needlessly.

    In the meantime, I have two sons, one of whom will be draft age in less than a year, and right now I'm thanking God that the American people are beginning to see, at long last, that Bush is taking our country in the wrong direction. Thanks to the series of scandals that have plagued his administration over the past year, he doesn't have the political firepower to set off an M-80 anymore; and if God is good, He'll see to it that things remain this way until Bush finally leaves office. Don't get me wrong; the Democrats don't have anything to offer either......but frankly, I don't care WHO the next president is, as long as he or she gets us the hell out of this senseless slaughter.:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire
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  3. by   Spidey's mom
    Marla - I'm so sorry for your loss and this boy's family.

    We've lost 4 local boys here - it is heartbreaking. I did see one young man who was injured last year - he came home to see his mom who was hospitalized for cancer and I got to talk to him. He and my #2 son went to school together. He has grown up . . . . amazing to see him, standing there, a man. Not a boy.

    Sending you a big hug.

    I'll remember your friend and his family in my prayers.

    steph
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Oh lord Marla, I am just so sorry for this loss.....so sorry.
  5. by   VivaLasViejas
    Quote from stevielynn
    Marla - I'm so sorry for your loss and this boy's family.

    We've lost 4 local boys here - it is heartbreaking. I did see one young man who was injured last year - he came home to see his mom who was hospitalized for cancer and I got to talk to him. He and my #2 son went to school together. He has grown up . . . . amazing to see him, standing there, a man. Not a boy.

    Sending you a big hug.

    I'll remember your friend and his family in my prayers.

    steph
    Thank you, sweetie........seems like you always know the right words to soothe my sore heart. :kiss

    I'm sorry your town has had it so tough as well.
  6. by   pickledpepperRN
    Oh Marla. You and his family are on my prayers.

    I don't have answers. Can't read minds.
    I hope and pray the President will get us out of this war soon. No reason to wait. He could stop the dishonesty. I hope and pray it goes relatively well.

    No thought that Democrats or any party with so much power would resist curruption. We NEED the checks and balances. What is said about absolute power is true. Who knows who said that?

    Many have been praying for peace for a long time. I think it is time.
    Peace on Earth
    Good will to men
  7. by   bethin
    I am so, so sorry! I know all the sorry's in the world won't bring him back.

    I am with you on the war. You may or may not know this, but out of all the U.S. senators and representatives children, only ONE is serving his/her country!! What would Bush do if he had to send his bar hopping daughters to Iraq? Uh, I think he'd be changing his mind. This war makes me so upset that I was ordered by my dr. not to watch the news or read certain national magazines. It makes me livid that not only are men and women dying, but some are coming back w/out limbs and PTSD. Some of them will relive the war in their heads everyday. Now that's a life sentence. I had an uncle who served in Vietnam and is doing good but my aunt says that he has "living nightmares" (her words) especially during storms. He wakes up in the middle of the night and runs to the living room couch and puts a blanket over his head. Meanwhile, he's screaming for everyone to get down. In his head there's a war going on.

    Your post made me cry and I don't even know you!! How is your daughter doing? I wish you all the best and will be thinking of you and everyone else that has lost a loved one in this war.
  8. by   grannynurse FNP student
    Quote from mjlrn97
    Tonight, I arrived home from a wonderful weekend of fun in Seattle only to receive some terrible news: my Army girl's ex-boyfriend was killed in action near Fallujah yesterday, just three months before his tour of duty was to end.

    This young man was part of our family for years; he and Melanie were practically engaged, and while dh and I ended up being very unhappy with him (and his mother, who engineered their eventual breakup), they remained friends long after the split, and still talked occasionally for a couple of years even after his enlistment in the Marines. In fact, he was her inspiration for joining the Army........like her, he had aspirations far beyond life in this little town, and he figured the service was a good way to get the money for college, and see a little of the world while he was at it.

    I can't believe he's really gone!! The details were all over the newspaper and TV today; according to the media, he was shot in the head and died along with several other U.S. soldiers in the midst of an attack on their position. He is the third serviceman from our town to die in Iraq this year, but this is the first one I knew personally. His grandmother is a longtime acquaintance of mine, an OB nurse where I work, and I can only imagine what she must be feeling. I've never had any particular use for his mother, who I'll just say lacks a certain maturity; but NOBODY deserves this..........and I'm so angry about all this that I don't know what to do:angryfire

    As everyone who's been around this site for any length of time knows, I've been against this war from the time the Bush administration started talking about it. Now, what was once merely one cause of my disgust with and general contempt for this administration has been brought home in all its ugliness: someone I knew, who spent a great deal of time in my home, who loved my daughter, who once came to me along with Melanie to talk about sex, is DEAD because of faulty intelligence, lies, and God knows what else. He was only 21 years old, but now he's the latest statistic, in a series of 2000+ American men and women who have died in this misbegotten war. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

    And I want to know WHY? Why is it that men---especially men like Bush and Cheney, who have never been to war and have never seen the human costs up close---are so at ease with justifying the death of other men? Is it an utter lack of compassion? Is it power? Or is it all just a playground rumble between rival bullies who won't stoop to soiling their own hands, but are more than willing to manipulate the players on the field and sacrifice as many as they have to in order to win?

    This whole mess is an exercise in futility, yet we continue to send more young people to their deaths in an effort to 'fix' a country like Iraq. What incredible arrogance it must take to believe we can change a nation that has been at war, and a way of life that has been in place, since Old Testament times.........it was wrong in the first place, it's wrong now, and it'll STILL be wrong 10 years from now when we're still trying to whip a little democracy on Iraq and TEN thousand American lives have been lost needlessly.

    In the meantime, I have two sons, one of whom will be draft age in less than a year, and right now I'm thanking God that the American people are beginning to see, at long last, that Bush is taking our country in the wrong direction. Thanks to the series of scandals that have plagued his administration over the past year, he doesn't have the political firepower to set off an M-80 anymore; and if God is good, He'll see to it that things remain this way until Bush finally leaves office. Don't get me wrong; the Democrats don't have anything to offer either......but frankly, I don't care WHO the next president is, as long as he or she gets us the hell out of this senseless slaughter.:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

    I am sorry for yours and his family's loss. On October 31, 2003 I lost a very dear friend there as well. He was a 2002 West Point graduate and had been married only eight weeks. And had been in country less then eight weeks. I had know him since he was five. He was a jolly, laughting individual who always brought a smile to a persons' face. I agree that this was an ill-conviced, poorly plan war and has accomplished only broading the terrorists base.

    Grannynurse
  9. by   VivaLasViejas
    That's the other thing: I don't know how I'm going to tell my daughter about this My eldest sent her an e-mail, which told her only to call home, there was something we needed to tell her (she lost her cellphone while she was in the hospital, and she has to call us from a pay phone---we can't reach her). The poor kid has had a rough fall; first she failed the last of her qualifying tests, which put her behind schedule in becoming a full-fledged helicopter traffic controller, then she had the MVA in which she broke several bones and degloved her left hand, and now this!

    I am glad she'll be home next month; I just wish I could be there to give her the news in person and to hold her.......I know this is going to be hard for her.
  10. by   Grace Oz
    Sending you my thoughts and sympathy, also this young man's family and loved ones. (((hug)))

    This war in Iraq is totally senseless. George Bush is a warmonger! We had Rumsfeld here in my hometown the other day. This AUSTRALIAN city was half closed down for some foreign politician and his minders!!! :angryfire We were NOT happy! He was here garnishing up more support and involvement from our government. AUSTRALIANS have NO place or business in this, George Bush, instigated slaughter. Yet, there we are, right there in amongst it! :angryfire

    And you know the latest??? .... AMERICAN B52 bombers are now going to fly across our AUSTRALIAN landscape dropping BOMBS in the outback as part of their target practise!!!! :angryfire :angryfire

    I'm all for us being friends and allies, but I don't use or abuse my friends!!
    I don't cajole them into any dirty deeds for my own gain.
    I don't put them or their loved ones in harms way.

    Again, my deepest sympathy. Sometimes we only really sit up and take notice or feel the pain, when it hits us personally. I'm sorry you and this young man, his family and loved ones are victims of political ideology, selfish politicians, bullies, and madmen!!!

    You will notice.... RARELY ever is a politicians son or daughter serving in the military!!! Interesting that!

    Thinking of you.....
  11. by   weetziebat
    Quote from mjlrn97
    Why is it that men---especially men like Bush and Cheney, who have never been to war and have never seen the human costs up close---are so at ease with justifying the death of other men? Or is it all just a playground rumble between rival bullies who won't stoop to soiling their own hands, but are more than willing to manipulate the players on the field and sacrifice as many as they have to in order to win?
    I am soooo very sorry to hear of the death of this young man, in a war that was unjustified from the very beginning, and was known to be unjustified, IMHO, by our government. I think you hit the nail on the head in your above paragraph.
    I can only pray that more Americans come to their senses and get Bush out of office. Nothing can bring back the >2,000 troops from our country alone, but his arrogance is unbelievable. Why don't his daughters join the war if it is in the best interest of our country and the world?
    Sorry, Marla, I'm getting off track. Just want to offer my sincere condolences to you and your family, as well as his family and other friends.
    War sucks!
  12. by   bethin
    Geez, Grace Oz, we can't keep it in our own country anymore??? This is terrible!! Isn't the Outback a national treasure or something?

    Well, this American apologizes for her countries infringement on all other countries. I am really sorry Grace Oz. You know, I probably wouldn't have known if you hadn't posted it. Like the U.S. govt. is going to give us the truth. Yeah, right.

    This whole war should never have happened. You think I could get Bush some 20/20 hindsight glasses?
  13. by   SmilingBluEyes
    IT is indeed ironic to me, that typically, less than 2% of the Congress currently serving has any history of military service whatsoever, and even fewer still, their own offspring---these are the ones who would deign call a congressman calling for a pullout a "coward"---the one wearing two purple hearts. The ones who play others like chesspieces in their war. This thing needs to STOP and NOW.

    Marla, again, my condolences. I am just so sorry about this whole thing.

    Grace, I am sorry, but I can't say I am surprised. Not one bit.
  14. by   VivaLasViejas
    Grace, I am soooo sorry about what's happening in the Outback........I had no idea the U.S. was doing this.:angryfire I'm just glad you understand that not all Americans are like George Bush, and that many of us disagree with what he is doing. His PR people have done a brilliant snow job on the American people over the past six years, but even some of his supporters are beginning to discover that he and his minions are duplicitous, mercenary b*****ds.

    You know, even if Congress were suddenly to develop the cojones to impeach Bush and Cheney for war crimes, it's far too late.......... the damage they have done to this country---not to mention individual lives---will last far beyond the end of their terms.:stone No one can bring back Tyler or the 2000+ other soldiers who have died in this senseless, stupid, irrational vendetta. No one can take their places. I only hope that someday Bush & company will be called to account for their loss.:angryfire

    I guess you all can tell I'm furious about this.........it's all such a damnable waste, and right now God Himself couldn't justify Tyler's death to me, let alone Bush or any of his supporters. I am angry, angry.......I haven't felt this way since my 'big brother', a family friend named Thomas Green, was killed in Vietnam back in 1971. His death was every bit as senseless as Tyler's, and even though I was only 12 back then, I knew right from wrong, and Vietnam was wrong. Iraq is wrong. So tell me again how it is that men who weren't even IN Vietnam can be permitted to wage war, and how it is that we, the American people, have so quickly forgotten the harsh lessons of Southeast Asia?

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