If you have not given up on peace yet

  1. http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15402
    http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=559

    Flowers in the Dark Winter of War
    By Jim Hightower
    March 17, 2003

    The politicians don't want to think about it, the media establishment has
    turned a blind eye to it, and the Bushites are trying to shout it down -
    but it's rising anyway, getting bigger and bigger all across the country.

    The "it" is a burgeoning American peace movement, flowering beautifully
    in the toxic climate of Bush's increasingly strident irrational and petulant
    warmongering. Every week, there are tens of thousands of American
    marching in the streets, attending prayer vigils, protesting Bush and
    Cheney events, holding teach-ins, and otherwise doing the hard work of
    democracy, confronting the powerful as best they can.

    Yet, you don't hear about it. All you hear is the White House pounding
    the war drums, the political yak-show hosts frothing for war, and the
    Democratic leaders in congress meekly mouthing their support.

    The people, however, mostly are not swallowing it. When I say "the
    people," I don't just mean just the campus groups and peace
    organizations. Now they've been joined by the president of the
    AFL-CIO and several hundred thousand union members who are
    stoutly patriotic... and just as stoutly opposed to Bush's war.

    They are joined by the Lutherans, Methodists, Episcopalians,
    evangelical Christians, Catholic Bishops, and other church groups that
    are agressively organizing againsts George's Iraq Attack. They are
    joined by Mothers Against War, a mushrooming grassroots group that
    began in a living room in Massachussets. They are joined by a veterans
    group led by vets who were in the last war against Saddam, when
    George the Elder was president. They are joined by corporate leaders
    who oppose the madness. They are joined by Black Voices for Peace,
    which has launched a poor people's peace movement, just as Martin
    Luther King, Jr. did back in '68.

    If you are somewhere between doubtful and dismayed by the current
    rush to war, you are hardly alone. Join the rebellion. Visit
    www.unitedforpeace.org or call 415-255-7296, ext. 311.



    United for Peace and Justice Call for
    Emergency "Day After" Anti-War Actions


    -------------------------------------------------- If the U.S. Attacks Iraq, Take to the Streets!

    War now appears imminent. If the bombs start falling, we call on
    you to join with United for Peace & Justice and other groups
    around the country in organizing emergency protests. However
    you choose to express your opposition to war - from silent vigils
    to loud marches to nonviolent civil disobedience - get out on the
    streets immediately and join with millions around the world in
    demanding an end to the bloodshed.

    In every corner of the U.S. people are already planning protests
    the day a war begins, or the day after. We urge you to contact
    your local groups to find out what is planned and how you can
    help. If nothing is planned, it is not too late to organize
    something. The most important thing is that hundreds of anti-war
    protests take place in cities and towns all across the country!

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  3. by   molecule
    POPE JOHN PAUL SPEAKS OUT

    03/18/2003

    (Vatican City-AP)

    The Vatican says anyone who gives up on peace will answer to God. For weeks, the Vatican has repeatedly spoken out against the possibility of war in Iraq. Pope John Paul says the use of force is a last resort and should only be considered after all peaceful means are exhausted.
    The Vatican's short response to President Bush's ultimatum for Saddam Hussein says anyone who believes peace is exhausted "assumes a grave responsibility before God, his own conscience and history."
  4. by   pickledpepperRN
    Originally posted by molecule
    POPE JOHN PAUL SPEAKS OUT

    03/18/2003

    (Vatican City-AP)


    The Vatican's short response to President Bush's ultimatum for Saddam Hussein says anyone who believes peace is exhausted "assumes a grave responsibility before God, his own conscience and history."
  5. by   angelac1978
    the articles you posted seem to suggest that the majority of Americans are against a war in Iraq. According to polls from several major news agencies, this just doesn't seem to be true.
    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...oll/index.html
    CNN's poll shows that 66% of Americans are in favor of the war

    http://www.msnbc.com/news/886732.asp
    MSNBC's poll shows that 65% are in favor of the war


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in544416.shtml

    CBS's poll is at 69%

    And finally, ABC's poll shows that 71% of Americans support this war.
  6. by   PennyLane
    Originally posted by angelac1978
    the articles you posted seem to suggest that the majority of Americans are against a war in Iraq. According to polls from several major news agencies, this just doesn't seem to be true.
    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...oll/index.html
    CNN's poll shows that 66% of Americans are in favor of the war

    http://www.msnbc.com/news/886732.asp
    MSNBC's poll shows that 65% are in favor of the war


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in544416.shtml

    CBS's poll is at 69%

    And finally, ABC's poll shows that 71% of Americans support this war.
    I was just discussing this with my mom on Sunday. We went to a candlight peace vigil, and she remarked how she doesn't know one single person who supports the war, yet polls show the majority of Americans do. I don't know anyone who supports the war, either, and the people I know aren't radical activists or anything. Just regular people.

    I have to wonder if there are vast regional differences--for instance, perhaps more people on the coasts are anti-war, and the mid-west more pro-military action? Please don't flame me for saying that, I'm just trying to figure out where those 71% are. They don't seem to be around here, or at any of the major cities on the east coast where I have friends.

    I, for one, plan on putting a light in my window for peace. I prefer the more silent protests.
  7. by   Ted
    Thanks for the post.

    Thanks for the encouragement. . . .

    Ted
  8. by   sbic56
    Mel D

    I do think the support for war various by region. New England and California are quite anti-war. The bible belt and Texas, I'd say are more pro war. I'd love to find a link to the breakdown.

    This link explains the recent war poll in more detail. Note it says that even though the percentage of those "for war" is high, many of those who say they support war wonder if it is the right thing to do. Polls are funny like that!!

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...oll/index.html
  9. by   Spidey's mom
    . . . (Anti-war) California here :-) . . . . . I'm Pro-Bush and Anti-Sadaam. I have family and friends all over California who feel the same way. Don't ya think you tend to hang out with like-minded people? Maybe that is why each side doesn't see or hear alot about the other side. Making blanket generalizations can get you in trouble.

    I read Michael Moore's letter to President Bush on one of the peace websites y'all posted. He tells the President to walk out of the Whitehouse and talk to Americans because we are ALL overwhelmingly against the war. Hmmmm . . . . well, Michael, take a walk yourself. Outside of Hollywood.

    Generalizations again. Half-truths. Somebody is gonna get a "F" in debate class.
  10. by   kittyw
    I think we're all for peace, but we just disagree on how to get there.
  11. by   pickledpepperRN
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    United for Peace Events

    Lots of organizing is happening at the last minute right now, so to
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    To search for emergency response actions, search by your state
    first, and then search by Event Type "Day After."

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    Day After


    San Francisco, California: Emergency Response to the Start of
    the War
    7:00am
    Day of the Attack: Rally and March, 5:00pm
    Next Business Day: Direct Action, 7:00am



    Vandeberg Air Force Base, California: Disrupt the War Machine
    at Vandenberg Air Force Base
    TBA
    If the war escalates, it is essential to be prepared to voice our
    opposition. The weekend after the bombing begins we will
    participate in non-violent civil disobedience at Vandenberg Air
    Force Base, Highway one six miles north of Lompoc, Santa Barbara
    County.

    Burlington, Vermont: Protest and Direct Action/CD
    12 noon or 6 PM
    If Attacks begin at night, meet at UVM's Royall Tyler Theater at
    noon the next day.

    If attacks begin during the day, meet at 6 PM that day.

    If you prefer, protestors will also be meeting at the top of Church
    Street at same times. The two protests will meet up there.

    Bring friends, signs, puppets, ideas for direct action, civil
    disobedience, and noise!!

    Auburn, California: Emergency Response to War on Iraq
    5:00 pm

    Madison, Wisconsin: National Campus Walk-Out
    11:05 AM
    Join UW-Madison students and campuses across the country in a
    walking out of class to protest an unjust invasion of Iraq.

    Laconia, New Hampshire: Anti-War Vigil
    5pm-6pm
    Candlelight vigil expressing opposition to bombing and war on Iraq

    McMinnville, Oregon: Peacemakers Response
    8:00 AM/9:00 AM
    If the U.S. begins an attack on Iraq, we will meet the next morning
    at 2nd & Adams, McMinnville, at 8:00 AM if it's a weekday when a
    regular vigil is not scheduled, 9:00 AM if it's on a weekend.


    Ventura, California: Ventura Peace Vigil
    6:00 p.m.
    Drop everything for the sake of humanity, Earth, and dignity

    Providence, Rhode Island: Emergency Response Plan

    Following is what AFSC, the RI Peace Mission Emergency Response
    Working Group, and Providence ANSWER have planned for the first
    day after Bush ramps up war with Iraq. Please help get the word
    out, and keep working to prevent it from being needed!



    Castle Rock, Colorado: Douglas County High School/Castle
    Rock, CO
    7:15 am
    Organized by Douglas County High School Students Taking
    Opposition Peacefully. Meet the "day after" in front of the high
    school's "north building" flag pole at 7:15 am. All
    students/community members are welcome. Email for more
    information!

    Cleveland, Ohio: Day After responses
    all day and 5-6 pm
    * Cleveland Peace Out - a one day general strike, possibly
    accompanied by a Peace Academy (a call for peace teaching) at the
    same time.
    * Mass Protests - everyone gather from 5-6 pm in Public Square
    * Nonviolent Civil Disobedience - In conjunction with the National
    Iraq Peace Pledge there are plans to transform the Soldiers &
    Sailors Monument in Public Square to a Peace Memorial

    Urbana-Champaign, Illinois: Emergency Rally to Oppose War
    Against Iraq
    12 noon
    Attend this emergency rally opposing a war against Iraq at 12noon
    on the day after the war on the south patio of the student union
    at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

    Hartford, Connecticut: Vigil & March

    *"Weekday Plan: "IF the bombing/invasion begins BEFORE 4pm,
    meet at the Old State House in downtown Hartford and again at
    7:30am the next morning. "IF the bombing/invasion begins AFTER
    4pm, meet at 7:30 the NEXT morning at the Old State House and
    again at 4pm later that day. ***You are encouraged to stay all
    day between the 7:30am and 4pm.

    Charlotte, North Carolina: Stop War on Iraq
    6:00PM
    In the event of a US attack on Iraq, we will meet at the Martin
    Luther King Jr statue in Marshall Park (by 3rd St side). Protests will
    take place worldwide.

    Davis, California: Emergency Response

    Peaceful community demonstration protesting military action.

    Honolulu, Hawaii: Peace Vigil and Gathering
    4:00pm
    Peaceful Gathering--No War


    Tucson, Arizona: Tucson Day After
    4:30 p.m.
    If the war on Iraq begins before 4:30 pm--people are to gather at
    the Federal Bldg. downtown at 4:30 pm. If it begins after 4:30
    pm--people will gather the following day at 4:30 pm. Hopefully this
    contingency plan will not have to be used.

    San Diego, California: Energency Response
    5 p.m.
    If the U.S. attacks Iraq, gather at the Federal Building (Broadway
    and Front St.) at 5 p.m. the same day. If the attack occurs after 5
    p.m., meet at 5 p.m. the next day.

    Ukiah, California: Protest Bombing of Iraq
    5 p.m.
    Gather to protest the bombing or invasion of Iraq: speakers,
    music, candle lit march through Ukiah

    Bellingham, Washington: Bellingham "Day of" Plans

    On the day of an escalation of the war we will meet at the Federal
    Building. The day after we will also meet at the Federal Building
    starting at noon. Students will walk out of classes at noon on the
    day after and march down to the Federal Building.

    Denton, Texas: Peace Picnic
    1pm - 3pm
    We will meet at the corner of Hickory and Fry Street in Denton,
    Texas. We will raise our voices and music in opposition to the
    arrogance of the Bush administration to commit murder in the
    name of multinational oil and gas companies.

    Fresno, Delaware: Emergency Response to War
    Immediately upon announced war
    DAY OF: Corner of Blackstone & Shaw immediately upon media
    announcement of war.
    NEXT BUSINESS DAY: Federal Building, Fresno & "O" St., 8:00 AM -
    6:00 PM.
    SATURDAY FOLLOWING: 12:00 noon. March from River Park
    (Blackstone & El Paso) to Blackstone & Shaw.

    Mount Vernon, Washington: People for a Peaceable Planet vigil
    5 PM
    Day 1: Vigil at Courthouse in Mount Vernon WA 5 PM, candlelight
    march to College Way/Riverside 6 PM -- bring candle or flashlight
    Day 2: Vigil noon - 4 PM, March 4 PM, Rally 5 PM
    Day 3-7: Vigil at Courthouse 5-6 PM

    MONTGOMERY COUNTY, Maryland: MCPS WALK-OUT!!!!!
    9:00 am
    IF WAR IS DECLARED AND BOMBING STARTS, THE NEXT SCHOOL
    DAY WE ARE WALKING OUT!!!!!!!!!

    Indianapolis, Indiana: 24-hour Consumer Boycott after Bush
    attacks Iraq

    A one day moratorium on spending! The day after news of Bush's
    attack on Iraq breaks on TV, we will stop being consumers for a full
    24-hours. We will not buy or purchase anything: No gas, no
    groceries, no magazines, music CDs, DVDs, stocks, etc.


    Loveland, Colorado: Day After Peace Vigil
    6:00 pm
    Meet for silent meditation, day after.


    Bishop, Mammoth, Lee Vining, Big Pine, California: Peace Vigil
    5 PM
    rapid response to start of war, appear at local post office at 5pm,
    wear black, carry a candle.
  12. by   pickledpepperRN
    I am against SH, for America, and for the people of the world.
    More for those who want to do something for peace.
    Support troops, not war.

    Germantown, Maryland: Silent Prayer Vigil
    5:30 - 6:30 p.m.
    Sponsored by a local Christian church, this event is open to all who
    would like to pray for peace with Iraq. If an attack on Iraq begins
    prior to 5:00 p.m. EST, we will vigil the same night, from 5:30 -
    6:30 p.m. If the attack on Iraq begins after 5:00 p.m. EST, we will
    vigil the next day from 5:30 - 6:30 p.m.

    Reno, Nevada: Emergency Response Protest
    5 pm
    On the day of a new US military action against Iraq gather at the
    downtown Federal building to make your opposition known.

    Kalamazoo, Michigan: Candlelight Vigil
    5 p.m.
    Meet at the Federal Building (Michigan & Park) at 5 p.m. for
    candlelight vigil. From there we will go to the First Presbyterian
    Church, 321 W. South St. You can go directly to the church if you
    prefer.

    Los Gatos, California: Los Gatos: Emergency Response
    5pm, 7am
    Meet in town center park. 5 pm on the day of the attack and 7am
    on the next week day if it starts during the day and 7am the next
    morning if it starts at night.

    Durango, Colorado: Day of/day after rally
    5:00 p.m.
    Meet at Rotary Park, 15th Street & E. 2nd Ave, Durango, CO, 5:00
    p.m. day of if war announced during day, 5:00 p.m. day after if
    announced in the evening.

    Blacksburg, Virginia: Iraq War Walk-Out and Teach-In
    11:00 A.M.
    Walk-out and teach-in.

    Boston, Massachusetts: Boston Day After Plans
    5 PM
    Boston Day After Plans:

    RALLY AT GOVERNMENT CENTER at 5PM, including speakers and
    die-in. From Government Center some people will continue to
    Copley Square where another rally and march has been called for
    6:30PM.
    -- Most area colleges / universities are planning walkouts if attack
    starts during the day-- walk out of classes and rally on campus,
    then march together to citywide actions above.



    Global, International: Three Days of Global Mourning

    A suggestion that on the day the War starts we each, individually
    and with friends, initiate Three Days of Global Mourning - for ALL
    the victims and a time to reflect how we each contribute to the
    cycle of violence.

    Bowling Green, Ohio: Mass Demonstration Against the Formal
    Start of War on Iraq
    5:30 PM
    Peaceful citizens of Bowling Green will gather at 5:30 PM in front of
    the post office on S. Main Street, Bowling Green, the day after the
    media announce that war has commenced. If you are local and
    support this protest, please print the flyer from the accompanying
    web page and hang it legally in a public place.

    Memphis, Tennessee: Peace Vigil
    6:00 pm
    In case an invation happens during the night, a vigil will be held at
    the Federal Building in Memphis, TN. If the invasion happens during
    the day, a vigil will be held at the federal building that evening at
    6:00 pm.

    Chattanooga, Tennessee: Vigil at Miller Park
    4:30 PM-EST
    Chattanooga Friends Meeting (Quakers) announce a vigil at Miller
    Park in downtown Chattanooga beginning at 4:30 PM in case of
    bombing before that time, the next day at the same time if the
    bombing occurs after 4:30 PM-EST.

    New York, New York: Converge on Times Square at 5:00PM
    5:00PM
    Converge from all directions on Times Square at 5:00PM on the
    day the bombing begins (next day if the bombing begins at night).
    If the police block access to the Square, we will flood the
    surrounding streets with our cries for peace. After the Times
    Square protest has run its course, people will proceed to
    Washington Square Park for a candlelight vigil.


    EDINBURGH, Great Britain , International: Stop the War
    All Day
    We are closing all our 4 shops in Scotland all day if war starts.

    Laramie, Wyoming: Peace Vigil
    5:30
    On the evening of the first day Bush declares war (if this happens
    )We will meet on the steps of the Albany County Courthouse
    where we will light candles, and provide a forum for people to
    speak if they wish.

    New York, New York: Peace Vigil at Ground Zero
    5:00 PM
    Church Street between Vesey and Fulton, in front of
    St. Paul Chapel the day after the bombing starts.
    Vigil will be held daily thereafter.


    Liberty, New York: Vigil/March
    All Day
    Sullivan County New York residents will leave their jobs and homes
    to join in an all-day rally in Liberty, NY ASAP after the bombing
    begins. Many will wear traditional mourning. Contact: 482-3527

    Las Vegas, Nevada: Funeral for Peace
    5.30pm
    Funeral-themed protest / street-theater for day after attacks on
    Iraq begin. Please bring any funeral-themed costumes and props.

    Las Vegas, Nevada: Contingency action
    6.00pm
    War-resister contingency action by the UNLV Peace Coalition for
    day of military action on Iraq.

    West Chester, Pennsylvania: Day After
    5:00-6:00
    The day after the US attacks Iraq, we will demonstrate at the
    Chester County Courthouse, High & Market Sts., West Chester, PA

    Watertown , New York: Emergency Response to War
    6pm
    Emergency Response Demonstration

    In the event of war, we will have a candlelight vigil on Public
    Square on the day that the war starts. It will start at 6pm. If war
    breaks out during the evening, it will be 6pm the following day.

    Mountian View, California: Anti War Protest
    6pm
    Peaceful Protest against the War on Iraq. If the war starts in the
    morning or afternoon, this protest will take place the day it starts.
    If the war starts in the late evening or night, this protest will take
    place the day after.

    Auburn, New York: Day of war rally
    5:00
    Day of invasion, rally at 5:00 at the Old Post Office, Auburn.


    Olympia, Washington: Peace Vigil and Rally
    5pm
    DAY OF: Candlight vigil at the Capitol Campus in front of Tivoli
    Fountain starts at 5pm. We will move to Sylvester Park at 7pm for
    an anti-war rally, and announce day after plans.

    Lawrence, Kansas: The Day After

    A march starting at South Park in Lawrence, Kansas begining at
    12pm,(The Day After) up Massachussets Street to the KAW, then
    returning.

    Lafayette, California: Peace Vigil
    5pm
    Gather at Mt. Diablo Blvd and Moraga Rd to pray, meditate and
    open our hearts to those at risk in the US invasion of Iraq. Bring
    candles, flowers and a peaceful soul. Our focus will be to honor
    those who have been put in harm's way.

    Minneapolis, Minnesota: Twin Cities Emergency Responce
    4:30
    We will hold a nonviolent demonstration against the "war on
    terror" if and when there is a major escalation of the war, such as
    an attack on Iraq.

    Gather at the Federal Courts Building at 4th Street and 3rd
    Avenue, Downtown Minneapolis, at 4:30 p.m. the day the
    escalation is reported in the morning paper.

    Geneva, New York: Geneva Anti-War Protest
    5pm
    Meet the day we start bombing Baghdad (or the day after if we
    hear about it late) at 5pm along Hamilton Street by the corner of
    Copeland Ave. Signs provided or bring your own.

    Sherman Oaks, California: Day of the Attack: Protest at Rep.
    Brad Sherman's Office
    5:00pm
    If the US invades Iraq, tell members of Congress that you hold
    them accountable for the results of this war.


    Pasadena, California: Day of the Attack: Protest at Rep. Adam
    Schiff's Office
    5:00pm
    If the US invades Iraq, tell members of Congress that you hold
    them accountable for the results of this war.


    Van Nuys, California: Day of the Attack: Protest at Rep. Howard
    Berman
    5:00pm
    If the US invades Iraq, tell members of Congress that you hold
    them accountable for the results of this war.


    Los Angeles, California: Day of the Attack: Protest at Rep.
    Henry Waxman's Office
    5:00pm
    If the US invades Iraq, tell members of Congress that you hold
    them accountable for the results of this war.


    Walnut Creek, California: Day of the Attack: Protest at Rep.
    Ellen Tauscher's Office
    5:00pm
    If the US invades Iraq, tell members of Congress that you hold
    them accountable for the results of this war.


    San Mateo, California: Day of the Attack: Protest at Rep. Tom
    Lantos' Office
    5:00pm
    If the US invades Iraq, tell members of Congress that you hold
    them accountable for the results of this war.


    Muncie, Indiana: Think Safe, Think Peace

    We have been holding events at Ball State University since
    October 2002. Our group is a group of students THINK SAFE, which
    a coglomeration between two separte groups on campus. Another
    group is holding gatherings every other saturday here in Muncie,
    so we are going to concentrate our efforts on 'day after' protests.
    We hope to contact the entire university and community and
    encourage them to not attend class and join in our gathering in
    the middle of campus (i.e. the frog baby statue).

    San Juan, Puerto Rico: Demostracion de Emergencia
    5:00pm
    El dia que comience la guerra, o cuando el presidente anuncie su
    intencion de comenzarla. (Si la noticia llega de noche, al dia
    siguiente)

    Ventura, California: Ventura Peace Vigil
    5 p.m.
    Our two hour vigil will symbolize the ongoing suffering of mostly
    poor people, especially of color throughout the world.

    Please bring candles, prayers, songs

    Richmond, Virginia: Protest at Federal Courthouse
    Noon
    At Noon on the day following an escalation in the war, people are
    invited to gather at the Federal Courthouse in Richmond, VA to
    express their protest of the war.

    Calgary, International: Day After; Calgary Alberta Canada
    5pm
    Strike downton calgary the day after if america attacks Iraq. Strike
    anywhere you will be seen by public
  13. by   Hardknox
    I think that under the threat of a high terror alert you are doing a diservice to our country. The police have more important things to do than deal with you people. Let them do their jobs. STAY HOME and pray for the safety of our troops that are ensuring your freedom .

    Where were you people after the world trade center got hit? THAT was when the war began. Why weren't you out in your black outfits and candles then? Why weren't you crying for peace THEN?
  14. by   molecule
    I heard a report persons who attempt to go on to this, or any other, military base may be shot:
    "Vandenberg Air Force Base, California: Disrupt the War Machine
    at Vandenberg Air Force Base".
    better to attend vigils and write Congress, who can stop war via pursestrings
    better to put a light in your window for peace, better to organize for 2004 election, better to pray. civil disobedience may have its place for those well trained and knowledgable of the consequences, but it is not a lark or something to do impulsively. America is a mighty machine at war; take care.

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