I need to know

  1. I just heard a story of an East Texas mom who killed her 2 boys 8 and 6, and hurt her 14 month old son. Turns out the dad was just waking up when police arrived. I can't imagine his pain. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? Can somebody please tell me. My heart aches over this. I'm shaking with tears. Those poor poor boys. WW.
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  3. by   jnette
    Haven't heard this one yet, WW... just got up, though.
    Nothing shocks me anymore, though. I'd hate it if it were true.. but this is one sick world we live in anymore...
  4. by   gwenith
    You have to wonder what is behind it. Only time will tell.
  5. by   Disablednurse
    Well she will probably say she wanted to just kill herself and the kids like all the others have said. You know the one who drowned them in the lake or some of the others. Strange thing all the mothers that wanted to commit suicide are still living, but the children are all dead. Really makes me mad.
  6. by   Flynurse
    I think this is one of those things that happens so little and seems so unreal that society sweeps it under the carpet and just blames the mom for doing something she "knows" she shouldn't have done. I always get leary when I hear a child that was killed or almost killed is two or younger.

    I'm not saying I'm an expert on this subject, but there is such a thing called Postpartum Psychosis. It is something that can present itself up to two years after the child is born where the mother can become suicidal or infantcidal. These women of course have previous bouts of depression and sometimes they leave the depression untreated after the birth of the baby.

    So, I guess what I'm saying is yes, its human to feel angry at the women who have done these things, but there is another side to it. We need realize that this is a healthcare issue that often goes untreated. I mean it came from the horse's mouth when Andrea Yates killed her children, her husband said, "Well, I guess, she wasn't acting herself the last few weeks." or something to that effect.

    I don't know...I feel like I sit on both sides of the fence on this one.
  7. by   Flynurse
    WW, I was just watching Larry King tonight and his topic was this latest devistating episode of postpartum psychosis. He interviewed Russell Yates. I could NOT believe some of these people calling in to the show and basically coming out right saying, 'Your wife is a murderer and she knew what she was doing, why do you still stand by her. You don't sound like you are sad for your kids.' God help me, I am so infuriated by ignorant people.

    Anyway, my feeling is that we should know, as nurses, that depression is depression and psychosis is psychosis. We should know as depression is highly undertreated in the elderly, the same goes for the majority of the population, even postpartum moms.

    I really hope that Larry King's show tonite shed some light on the subject. With more and more cases being shown on news channels I hope that the medical society decides to become more aggressive in public education. I hope WebMD.com finds more literature to put on their website and that I don't have to learn all that I know from a pamphlet I found on the floor on the maternity ward (which isn't discussed with any patient I have ever come into contact with).

    Sorry, but this subject really gets to me.

  8. by   gwenith
    Very insightful post Flynurse. It is true that post partum depression is a silent stalker among women and many times undertreated and underdiagnosed. There was some belief that the infamous "Lindy Chamberlain" case here in Australia was post partum depression - I guess we will never know.
  9. by   Flynurse
    But that's the point...its PSYCHOSIS, not depression.