I need help for my daughter, please

  1. She is interviewing next week with a BSN program. I want to send her with a list of questions to ask, so that she can make an informed decision. So far I've thought of:

    What is the percentage of students who pass the boards on the first try?
    By the end of school, how many pts does each student care for in clinicals?
    How many hours a week are spent in the clinical setting?

    Can anyone think of some more? Thanks!
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  3. by   Liddle Noodnik
    Quote from TazziRN
    She is interviewing next week with a BSN program. I want to send her with a list of questions to ask, so that she can make an informed decision. So far I've thought of:

    What is the percentage of students who pass the boards on the first try?
    By the end of school, how many pts does each student care for in clinicals?
    How many hours a week are spent in the clinical setting?

    Can anyone think of some more? Thanks!
    Hi Tazzi

    It's hard because there are things she may already know, but I guess I would ask:

    How soon are students placed on the clinical floor? What skills are they expected to have before they have clinicals?

    What is the ratio of instructors to students in the clinical setting? And what kind of supervision do students receive? (ie, is the instructor all over the hospital, or are they available to students all the time?)

    What are the HOURS of clinical instruction (some will have students on days or eves)

    How and how often is feedback given to the student in regard to their clinical progress?

    As far as academics, the school's catalog should have this outlined - she can request a copy before the actual date of her interview.

    Tell her good luck!
  4. by   NRSKarenRN
    Where are clinical located and average drive time to sites. Is car required?

    When do nursing classes start --sophomore or junior year. Is certification as CNA required prior to entering nursing classes?

    What are program entrance requirements, required courses prior to entering program?

    Do they give credit for courses taken at local community college/area schools?

    When are clinical class scheduled: set days per week throughout program or differing days/times with each course?

    Who is teaching course: Nursing Professor or Nursing teaching assistant?
    Is professor same person in clinical or are clinical instructors used.?

    If you leave program due to personal issues then return at later date, are courses required based on requirements first entering school or later course catalog?

    Are books required to be purchased only at school store?

    Ratio of students to instructor in classroom + clinical area (already covered above)

    **What is program retention rate past 3-5 years?

    Resources available to assist students.

    Do you have a nursing lab? What hours are available to students outside scheduled program time? Who runs nursing lab?

    Is there a student nurses club or NSNA chapter---how involved in nursing program? Fees for program included in tuition or separate?
    Do students attend NSNA conventions?

    Are there pictures/articles displayed in hallway bulletin boards about nursing program or does program appear "invisible" ---compared to other programs on campus?
    Is nursing program considered separate "school" of college or single program? Who does Nursing Chair/Dean report to? (indicates support of college for program and influence Nursing Admin has in college program design)

    Are alternate nursing courses offered beyond those required for program---(shows variety enrichment courses)

    Is there a senior practicum?

    What is the general feel of students on campus?

    Do students appear engaged in classroom discussion or look bored taking notes when peaking in classroom windows.

    Can she observe classroom discussion?

    Who is major employer of their graduates and length of time till graduates obtain first position?

    Which schools do their graduates go to for Masters programs?

    What is cost of program, scholarships available, any employers pay for program in exchange for work commitment?

    Good luck! Hope she finds the right fit for her.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jan 26, '07
  5. by   TazziRN
    Thank you!!

    Zoe, she knows absolutely nothing. Her dad and I do not agree with her decision to go to this school (see thread I posted a week or two ago about this) but we'd decided to quit fighting her on this and let her make her own decision. In return, however, she agreed to research at least 2 other schools in addition to this one and compare what she learns about them.
  6. by   adrienurse
    is the program accredited?
  7. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I see you have some excellent suggestions and at this weird hour (0355) for me, I can't think of anything to add (migraine got me out of bed).

    But I do want to wish your daughter the best. And I want to congratulate you for being the loving parent, wanting the best for her, and supporting her in her decisions, despite your disagreement. I wish I had had parents like you.
  8. by   gauge14iv
    I agree that program retention rate is a HUGE one - what percentage of students who begin with a class graduate with THAT class?

    That is one question that many programs will try to dodge or pretend they are not very sure of.
  9. by   llg
    Quote from gauge14iv
    I agree that program retention rate is a HUGE one - what percentage of students who begin with a class graduate with THAT class?

    That is one question that many programs will try to dodge or pretend they are not very sure of.
    I think this question is critical to ask any school. Too many people focus only on the NCLEX pass rate and fail to include this crucial piece of information. Both questions should be asked and the information should be considered together.

    Some schools graduate a high percentage by having low standards. They graduate, but they can't pass boards -- and make lousy nurses. Other schools have super NCLEX pass rates, but only because everyone who might conceivably fail is not allowed to graduate. I would ask those 2 questions of each school and compare them side by side in search of a good balance between the two approaches that I would be comfortable with.

    Good luck with your daughter. It sounds as if you have found a good process to resolve the conflicts within your family about this issue. Perhaps as she investigates the details of each school (including the funding), the 3 of you (her, your husband, and you) will come to a mutual agreement about which school is the best one for her at this time.

    llg
  10. by   Liddle Noodnik
    Quote from TazziRN
    Thank you!!

    Zoe, she knows absolutely nothing. Her dad and I do not agree with her decision to go to this school (see thread I posted a week or two ago about this) but we'd decided to quit fighting her on this and let her make her own decision. In return, however, she agreed to research at least 2 other schools in addition to this one and compare what she learns about them.
    Tazzi, one day she will thank you And at least she has agreed to check the other two out! Good job, mom
  11. by   Liddle Noodnik
    Quote from TazziRN
    Thank you!!

    Zoe, she knows absolutely nothing. Her dad and I do not agree with her decision to go to this school (see thread I posted a week or two ago about this) but we'd decided to quit fighting her on this and let her make her own decision. In return, however, she agreed to research at least 2 other schools in addition to this one and compare what she learns about them.
    Oops, and ps: Good job, dad!
  12. by   MLF
    Tazzi: I don't have any suggestions to offer but would like to say this. She wants a BSN opposed to an ADON. Depending on where she works (what she wants to do), it might well work out for her. When I was in nursing school we did clinicals at a hospital that also ran a BSN program. EVERYBODY told us students that, by watching us work, they knew what school we were from even without our uniforms on. Our school taught more hands-on and we could just jump in and do the job. The BSN students had more book-learning and less clinical skills. So,, you will just have to see how it goes. She may even start the program and not like it. I suggest you let her decide. If she is anything like me, pressuring her will make her do it just to be contrary. Donna
  13. by   Roy Fokker
    Quote from zoeboboey
    How and how often is feedback given to the student in regard to their clinical progress?
    Please, PLEASE, PLEASE have her ask this question.

    I failed one of my clinicals because of insufficient supervision and inadequate feedback from the instructor.... resulting in having to take summer school and other unpleasantness :stone

    cheers,
  14. by   TazziRN
    Thank you so much, everyone! These are great questions that I didn't think of.

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